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awesome
Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:22:29 AM
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Ive been having an argument with someone about this,
can a person double attack than benefit from her CE that says when a follower ends its move within 6 can move 2 extra.


I am pretty sure it means at the end of turn, but they think it means you have to move to get it,

who is right?(I am not asking the people I was arguing with).
thanks.
Sithfan
Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:31:15 AM
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Each follower that ends its move within 6 squares of this character can move 2 extra squares at the end of its turn.


I'm sorry to say it, but you do need to move at least one square to end your movement within 6 of Leia...
Not moving would mean that you never ended your movement.
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awesome wrote:
Ive been having an argument with someone about this,
can a person double attack than benefit from her CE that says when a follower ends its move within 6 can move 2 extra.


I am pretty sure it means at the end of turn, but they think it means you have to move to get it,

who is right?(I am not asking the people I was arguing with).
thanks.


if someone disagrees with you it does not make it an argument. But you should check the FAQ as this is covered. I have copied and pasted it for you..... then you can aswer for yourself and decide whether the people who disagreed were arguing or trying to help you get a better understanding of the game.



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Q: Princess Leia, Senator's commander effect reads: "Each follower that ends its move within 6 squares of this character can move 2 extra squares at the end of its turn." How does this work with doors?

A: The controlling player chooses in which order to resolve end-of-turn effects. So a follower could end its move 2 squares from a door, then move 2 extra squares and open the door. Or the player could choose to resolve door effects first, then move the follower 2 squares to be adjacent to the door. In that case, the door does not open until the end of the turn of the next character to act. A player could also end a follower's move adjacent to the door, then resolve door effects (opening the door), and then move the follower 2 squares through the open door. The door would stay open until the end of the next character's turn, at which point it would close if no character is adjacent.



Q: Princess Leia, Senator and a follower are on opposite sides of a door. The follower ends its move adjacent to the door. In that position, the distance between the follower and Leia is 23 squares, because you can't count?range through walls and closed doors. If the door were open, however, the distance between Leia and the follower would be only 4 squares. Can the follower trigger door effects (opening the door) and then move 2 more squares from Leia's commander effect?

A: No. In order to qualify for Leia's commander effect, the follower must be within 6 squares of Leia when it ends its move, and its move ends before its turn ends, and therefore its move ends before the door can open. You have to count the distance between the follower and Leia before the door opens, and you have to count around walls and closed doors. (See the glossary definition of range in the rulebook for more details on how to count distances.) At the time the follower's move ends, the distance between them is more than 6 squares, and is therefore too great for the follower to qualify for Leia's commander effect.



Q: In order to benefit from Princess Leia, Senator's commander effect, a follower must "end its move" within 6 squares of Leia. If a follower doesn't actually move during the normal part of its turn, can it still benefit from Leia's commander effect and move 2 extra squares? For example, can a follower who is already within 6 squares of Leia stand still, make an attack against an enemy, and then move 2 squares using Leia's commander effect? The Savage glossary definition makes it sound like moving 0 squares counts as moving: ". . . it can move 0 squares and thus 'end its move' next to that enemy."

A: A follower must move at least 1 square before the end of its turn to benefit from Princess Leia, Senator's commander effect. The Savage glossary definition is misleading and should not be interpreted as allowing moves of 0 to count toward Leia's commander effect. We'll clean that entry up in future products.



Q: Can a follower use the extra movement granted by Princess Leia's commander effect in the middle of its turn? For example, can the follower move 8 squares and then attack?

A: No. Princess Leia, Senator's commander effect is an end-of-turn effect, so it applies only when the follower's turn ends. The follower could attack and then move 6 squares, ending within 6 squares of Leia, then move 2 more squares, or it could move 6 squares, make an attack (ending its turn within 6 squares of Leia), then move 2 more squares.

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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:35:31 AM
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Hehe, didn't even know I was arguing. I thought I was explaining the answer and where to find it. I told him to look at the glossary on here, or the FAQ for the answer if he wasn't convinced. Ce la vi :)
dnemiller
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billiv15 wrote:
Hehe, didn't even know I was arguing. I thought I was explaining the answer and where to find it. I told him to look at the glossary on here, or the FAQ for the answer if he wasn't convinced. Ce la vi :)


actually i was using his quote as he said he was arguing..
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Is this the right room for an arguement?
awesome
Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:08:18 PM
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Arguing was the first thing poping in my head that meant about the same(was in a hurry to go),

But anyways thanks, its still an alright squad just has to play a bit better.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:23:35 AM
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Haha. This is no "arguement". Simply someone thinking an ability/CE works one way and being corrected after asking about it. If you want arguing, go over to the WOTC forums. Blink
awesome
Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:12:33 AM
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I already said it wasnt an argument, I couldnt think of words to say, was in a hurry.
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Are you seriously trying to decide whether you're arguing or not?LOL
awesome
Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:51:58 AM
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Man, does no one actually read the WHOLE thread as I said 5 billion times, I couldnt get the word disagreement in my mind, I was in a hurry(start reading the whole thing not little bits and pieces)
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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:04:49 PM
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No worries Awesome-man...its' all cool. Nothin wrong with misunderstanding how something works. We ALL do it. BlooMilk
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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:55:25 PM
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imyurhukaberry wrote:
No worries Awesome-man...its' all cool. Nothin wrong with misunderstanding how something works. We ALL do it. BlooMilk


Thanks that is right, I just dont like retyping everything in allot.
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dnemiller wrote:

if someone disagrees with you it does not make it an argument. But you should check the FAQ as this is covered. I have copied and pasted it for you..... then you can aswer for yourself and decide whether the people who disagreed were arguing or trying to help you get a better understanding of the game.





If some one disagrees with you and you have a conversation about that disagreement, then that would be an agrument. Arguments do no have to be aggressive or vehement. Just two different opinions and people expressing those opinions to each other while trying to convince one another of the validity of their statements. From webster.com:

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Main Entry:
ar·gu·ment
Pronunciation:
\ˈär-gyə-mənt\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin argumentum, from arguere
Date:
14th century
1obsolete : an outward sign : indication
2 a: a reason given in proof or rebuttal b: discourse intended to persuade
3 a: the act or process of arguing : argumentation b: a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion c: quarrel, disagreement
4: an abstract or summary especially of a literary work <an argument preceded the poem>
5: the subject matter especially of a literary work
6 a: one of the independent variables upon whose value that of a function depends b: a substantive (as the direct object of a transitive verb) that is required by a predicate in grammar c: amplitude 4


bolded portion added by me for emphasis.
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"Is this the right room for an arguement?" is Monty Python... did no one spot that?
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:59:00 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
"Is this the right room for an arguement?" is Monty Python... did no one spot that?


What Monty Python? Holy Grail or the Circus one?
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awesome wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
"Is this the right room for an arguement?" is Monty Python... did no one spot that?


What Monty Python? Holy Grail or the Circus one?


Circus
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