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AceAce
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Is a strafe attack an attack?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:46:05 PM
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Depends on what you mean. Strafe Attack is a special ability that generates attacks.
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I would add, it generates non-targeted attacks.
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swinefeld wrote:
I would add, it generates non-targeted attacks.

Wait... Can you strafe a diplomat?
TheHutts
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atmsalad wrote:
swinefeld wrote:
I would add, it generates non-targeted attacks.

Wait... Can you strafe a diplomat?


From Swinefeld in 2009:
A non-targeting attack is still an attack, which is why Lord Vader has to combine Lightsaber Sweep with Overwhelming Force to get around both restrictions.
atmsalad
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TheHutts wrote:
atmsalad wrote:
swinefeld wrote:
I would add, it generates non-targeted attacks.

Wait... Can you strafe a diplomat?


From Swinefeld in 2009:
A non-targeting attack is still an attack, which is why Lord Vader has to combine Lightsaber Sweep with Overwhelming Force to get around both restrictions.


Wait... So I can't just lightsaber sweep a diplomat?!?! Scared Blink
atmsalad
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Wow... Do I even star war minis...
blemelisk
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granades or missiles?
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blemelisk wrote:
granades or missiles?


If they are standing next to the target.
blemelisk
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FlyingArrow wrote:
blemelisk wrote:
granades or missiles?


If they are standing next to the target.


exactly sorry, i forgot to mention the splash of the attack Smile
AceAce
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So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?
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can not. A free attack doesn't allow you to move, so they could only stand and do it. Strafe says WHILE MOVING.
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AceAce wrote:
So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?


A Character with strafe may move up to its speed and attack a character whose square it enters. At the end of that movement it may make its regular attack. example; Ani STAP can move 6 squares attacking each character it travels over and then twin attack another target at the end of the move. A character with Double Attack would have to have GMA in order to Double attack at the end of its move. example Cin Drallig with Yobuck. Yobuck could gallop 10 and then Double attack at the end of the move.
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Caedus wrote:
AceAce wrote:
So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?


A Character with strafe may move up to its speed and attack a character whose square it enters. At the end of that movement it may make its regular attack. example; Ani STAP can move 6 squares attacking each character it travels over and then twin attack another target at the end of the move. A character with Double Attack would have to have GMA in order to Double attack at the end of its move.




False. Ani on STAP can twin everyone whose square he enters. He may also move DOUBLE speed, and still attack everyone whose square he enters Twice. He would not get the "End Attack" if he went above his speed.

Soo...


Move 6, attack everything(twice with twin), and then 1 adjacent target, again twice with twin.
Move 6 or more, attack everything (twice with twin)
Caedus
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shmi15 wrote:
Caedus wrote:
AceAce wrote:
So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?


A Character with strafe may move up to its speed and attack a character whose square it enters. At the end of that movement it may make its regular attack. example; Ani STAP can move 6 squares attacking each character it travels over and then twin attack another target at the end of the move. A character with Double Attack would have to have GMA in order to Double attack at the end of its move.




False. Ani on STAP can twin everyone whose square he enters. He may also move DOUBLE speed, and still attack everyone whose square he enters Twice. He would not get the "End Attack" if he went above his speed.

Soo...


Move 6, attack everything(twice with twin), and then 1 adjacent target, again twice with twin.
Move 6 or more, attack everything (twice with twin)


That's what I said. Thanks for agreeing. I implied everyone read Ani STAPs card that he could twin strafe. Sorry for the confusion
Caedus
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In short, the only way a strafer could Strafe AND utilize Extra Attack would be if that character has GMA
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:25:11 PM
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Non-targeting attacks get around the "can't target" part (e.g. Lightsaber Sweep, Strafe Attack, Counterstrike)
Unpreventable attacks get around the "can't attack" part (e.g. Overwhelming Force, Brutal Strike)

And then Indiscriminate ignores both parts of Diplomat.
And Political Operative ignores the ability by name.
blemelisk
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shmi15 wrote:
Caedus wrote:
AceAce wrote:
So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?


A Character with strafe may move up to its speed and attack a character whose square it enters. At the end of that movement it may make its regular attack. example; Ani STAP can move 6 squares attacking each character it travels over and then twin attack another target at the end of the move. A character with Double Attack would have to have GMA in order to Double attack at the end of its move.




False. Ani on STAP can twin everyone whose square he enters. He may also move DOUBLE speed, and still attack everyone whose square he enters Twice. He would not get the "End Attack" if he went above his speed.

Soo...


Move 6, attack everything(twice with twin), and then 1 adjacent target, again twice with twin.
Move 6 or more, attack everything (twice with twin)


But, "this turn, this character cannot attack any enemy twice" is specifically mentioned in the wording of the ability. Would it not prevent Twin from triggering since is specifically states that during this turn (of him using strafe) he cant attack any one enemy twice.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:33:23 PM
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You'd think that, but it's poorly worded. It just means you can't attack the same character twice with Strafe Attack.

WotC answered the question a long time ago. I think it might be in the FAQ.
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AceAce wrote:
So, if you give someone with strafe attack a free attack at the end of a move (from CE or other source,) they can or cannot make a strafe run?


1. Strafe only works on your turn.

2. If you had say Han in stormy armor and an Ewok Hang Glider, you could in fact charging fire (strafing while you go) and then perform the charging fire attack at the end of the move. This has been around since WOTC days.


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