Okay everyone, calm down. This is getting ridiculous. In the following post I use some thoughts and reply to some thoughts by different posts in this thread. I didn't quote anything since frankly, there were too many, and I didn't feel the need to call anyone out by name.

When I started the tournament, the goal was to generally create a similar environment to that of an in-person regional (for example, that is why the maplist was changed, to better reflect the current tourney maplist). However, there are differences between physical and vassal play that make a perfect replica impossible.

At a physical regional, yes, you can watch other games. However, you cannot watch how a player sets up on a particular map, their opening moves, etc. You can only see the matches that take longer than yours that are often in the finishing stages, and if you are anything like me you either wander around just seeing what people are running or maybe watch a squad that you helped test or something. In no case (ignoring the guy with the bye, nobody wants to be that guy anyway) do you get to watch a full match, showing a player's complete strategy.

I did not mention anything about locked or open rooms up to this point, so anything anybody did with their rooms has been allowed.

Playing a round across 10 days, at different times, and with varying knowledge of corner cases and specific rulings on interactions, it is understood that yes, cheating could occur, and we are all trusting each other to not bend the rules just because there is no enforcement. Heck, you all trusted me to not look at your squads and run a counter to the majority of them (I think the results back up my integrity here, 0-2 with 1 point lol). If you are worried enough about cheating that locked or open rooms is an issue, vassal play might not be for you. Sorry.

As I understand from previous posts (having never encountered this at the limited number of regionals I have attended) you can ask someone to leave your table at a regional. To me this equates to leaving a room locked in vassal. Maybe not everyone does it, but it is allowed.

No one is entitled to watch someone else's match. You spent no money getting to this point, and no money will be earned at the end. There are no prizes, travel times, contracts, or endorsement deals. It's just two people playing a match, the results of which will be posted afterwards for you to read.

Going forward, if either player requests that their room stay locked, then it stays locked. If both players are cool with leaving the room open and announcing a play time on the forum, go for it. It might be wise to include your preference while scheduling so that your opponent does not announce a match you would rather not be watched in.

I'm sorry to hear that various players are considering leaving the tournament, but I had to make a decision, and I made the one that I feel is the most reasonable. If you have any additional thoughts on the subject feel free to reply or send me a bloomail.

I am postponing the start of round 3 by one day since there might be changes in players.

Okay everyone, calm down. This is getting ridiculous. In the following post I use some thoughts and reply to some thoughts by different posts in this thread. I didn't quote anything since frankly, there were too many, and I didn't feel the need to call anyone out by name.

When I started the tournament, the goal was to generally create a similar environment to that of an in-person regional (for example, that is why the maplist was changed, to better reflect the current tourney maplist). However, there are differences between physical and vassal play that make a perfect replica impossible.

At a physical regional, yes, you can watch other games. However, you cannot watch how a player sets up on a particular map, their opening moves, etc. You can only see the matches that take longer than yours that are often in the finishing stages, and if you are anything like me you either wander around just seeing what people are running or maybe watch a squad that you helped test or something. In no case (ignoring the guy with the bye, nobody wants to be that guy anyway) do you get to watch a full match, showing a player's complete strategy.

I did not mention anything about locked or open rooms up to this point, so anything anybody did with their rooms has been allowed.

Playing a round across 10 days, at different times, and with varying knowledge of corner cases and specific rulings on interactions, it is understood that yes, cheating could occur, and we are all trusting each other to not bend the rules just because there is no enforcement. Heck, you all trusted me to not look at your squads and run a counter to the majority of them (I think the results back up my integrity here, 0-2 with 1 point lol). If you are worried enough about cheating that locked or open rooms is an issue, vassal play might not be for you. Sorry.

As I understand from previous posts (having never encountered this at the limited number of regionals I have attended) you can ask someone to leave your table at a regional. To me this equates to leaving a room locked in vassal. Maybe not everyone does it, but it is allowed.

No one is entitled to watch someone else's match. You spent no money getting to this point, and no money will be earned at the end. There are no prizes, travel times, contracts, or endorsement deals. It's just two people playing a match, the results of which will be posted afterwards for you to read.

Going forward, if either player requests that their room stay locked, then it stays locked. If both players are cool with leaving the room open and announcing a play time on the forum, go for it. It might be wise to include your preference while scheduling so that your opponent does not announce a match you would rather not be watched in.

I'm sorry to hear that various players are considering leaving the tournament, but I had to make a decision, and I made the one that I feel is the most reasonable. If you have any additional thoughts on the subject feel free to reply or send me a bloomail.

I am postponing the start of round 3 by one day since there might be changes in players.

Honestly? It messes with everyone if anyone quits. It's an insult to Naarkon and an inconvenience to everyone for anyone to quit. Please reconsider.

Well have fun with your "we support accommodations" vassal "special" regional.

I don't know how serious I can take swm anymore.
Literally, I have been playing and play testing and playing more and making squads and all this stuff so that I can prepare for gencon.

I don't want to go to gencon with a bunch of "making accommodation" pseudo-competitors.

This is so soft and weak it ruins everything.Tim you are as pompous and self righteous as ever.


I tried to tell everyone that competition was dead. Last gencon proved that. I literally just told shmi15 the other day that competition was back....
Than this pandering nonsense.

It's pathetic in terms of competition.


I'm out.

I will wait for a competitive environment (if there is one left)

Irony:



Someone quitting the tournament because they are upset that they didn't get their way . . .

While mocking the tournament calling it a "we support accommodations" vassal "special" regional.

So I play UrbanShmi or Caedus? Do they just need to roll it out or is their something we can look at to see who I play?


One of them play me, the other plays Flying Arrow, I'm cool with howevver they decide who plays who, just let me know so I can schedule my game.