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spryguy1981
Posted: Sunday, April 5, 2020 1:51:28 PM
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Let's keep the momentum going. I know many of us are still out of work, and while I still have to work, I'm off Saturday. This Saturday at 3pm Eastern time I will host a 500pt Epic Skirmish event. The rules are as listed.

1. Maximum of 16 activations including reserves/reinforcements
2. Your squad must include exactly one epic miniature from Epic Sets 1, 2, or 3.
3. You may not decrease the number of activations in a phase but you may increase as permitted by the character providing the form of activation control.
4. Bastila's ABM is active only for the round it is turned on.
If I'm missing anything Tint let me know. I dont want to limit CEs which I know is a variant people have played.
5. Gambit is 25 points and must be scored by a 25point piece or higher.
6. Based on recommendations the 8th Cortex Shaper is not legal for this.
7. 90 minute rounds after setup. Needing 500 for a 3pt win, 250 for a 1 point loss. I know when I've played I have been able to finish in 90 minutes.

Sign up in this thread, and then submit squad and map to me by next Saturday at 2pm EST. This weekend was a lot of fun, let's keep it going.

1. spryguy1981
2. Timmerb123
3. UrbanShmi
4. Darth O
5. Harryg
6. thereisnotry
7. UrbanJedi


1. Spry
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/211777/epic-ghosts
Map: Cloud City

2. Tim
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/211885/epic-jango-the-pirate-king-
Map: Offworld Shipping Center

3. Shmi
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/211888/epic-pilots
Map: Anchorhead

4. O
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/123279/bringing-peace-to-my-old-republic
Map: Anchorhead

5. Harry
Luke Skywalker, First of the New Order (154)
Old Ben Kenobi (100)
Han Solo, Captain of the Millennium Falcon (48)
Chewie (38)
Dice Ibegon (29)
Lando Calrissian, Infiltrator (21)
Princess Leia, Rebel Commando (19)
Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2) (18)
Keeper of the Whills (15)
Momaw Nadon (15)
General Rieekan (14)
See-Threepio (C-3P0) (12)
Lyra Erso (10)
Salacious Crumb (5)

498 points, 14 activations.
Map: Cloud City

6. tint
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/211786/epic-mandos
Map: Rebel Fortress

7. J
http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/211913/epics
Map: Rhen Var
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:43:53 PM
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IN!
UrbanShmi
Posted: Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:54:32 PM
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I'm not an EPIC player, but down for some more minis. In.
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, April 5, 2020 5:25:25 PM
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Time limit? (games rarely finish in an hour)

(related to above) what constitutes a 1pt loss or a 3pt win? (Since games rarely finish, I have played that winning with 300pts or more gets you the 3pt win, and losing but scoring 150 gets you 1pt)

How much is gambit worth? (everyone agreed 50 was too much at Frosty con many years ago. 25 and 30 have both been done and seem better)

I have also seen where only Epics can score gambit

In addition to the rule you listed about Bastila, I have also seen that she starts with only 2 force points.


TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:36:37 PM
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Additionally -

I would recommend banning the 8th cortex shaper. Vong just gets exponentially stupid at 500, and the Force (mostly) doesn’t effect them. Mega NPE potential.
TimmerB123
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:55:05 PM
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spryguy1981 wrote:

6. Based on recommendations the 8th Cortex Shaper is not legal for this.


Thank you!

As one of the designers of the piece, I can say that we purposefully pushed the limits to get unique Vong good, and specifically scaled it to 200pts. But we knew it would go from good to insane the more points scaled up.

Look at this pile o' ridiculousness.

Epic 8th Cortex INSANITY!!!

It would be no fun for anyone! I'd have to spend 5 minutes every time something died just to figure out all the things that happen!
harryg
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:58:02 PM
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After fiddling with VASSAL (It's a lot more intuitive than I remember, or maybe I've gotten smarter?) I'm in!
harryg
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:09:07 PM
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Also, where am I submitting my squad, spryguy? Do i send you a "BlooMail" or is there some other way you would prefer I contact you with?
spryguy1981
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:25:17 PM
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Yep, just send me a Bloomail. Great to have you.
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:45:28 PM
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spryguy1981 wrote:
Let's keep the momentum going. I know many of us are still out of work, and while I still have to work, I'm off Saturday. This Saturday at 3pm Eastern time I will host a 500pt Epic Skirmish event.
Do you mean Saturday, April 11?

Darth O
Posted: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:36:47 PM
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I'll play!
spryguy1981
Posted: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:28:22 PM
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Yes April 11th
thereisnotry
Posted: Thursday, April 9, 2020 4:26:49 AM
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Ok, I'm in. I'll come up with something.
urbanjedi
Posted: Thursday, April 9, 2020 4:27:20 PM
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count me in.

harryg
Posted: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:44:31 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
spryguy1981 wrote:

6. Based on recommendations the 8th Cortex Shaper is not legal for this.


Thank you!

As one of the designers of the piece, I can say that we purposefully pushed the limits to get unique Vong good, and specifically scaled it to 200pts. But we knew it would go from good to insane the more points scaled up.

Look at this pile o' ridiculousness.

Epic 8th Cortex INSANITY!!!

It would be no fun for anyone! I'd have to spend 5 minutes every time something died just to figure out all the things that happen!


Yeah, this looks absurd. Good recommendation re. banning the piece; at a 500 point format, the sheer amount of things going on there might make minis feel like chores, LOL
spryguy1981
Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:03:01 AM
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Can we get one more player to make it 8? Also need squads from Timmer and Tint
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:20:55 AM
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spryguy1981 wrote:
Also need squads from Timmer and Tint


Oh, I was waiting until you told us that you sent yours to a neutral party
thereisnotry
Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:47:54 AM
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Yeah, mine is ready. I'll send it a bit before we start.

Have you sent your squad to a neutral third party?
spryguy1981
Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:51:58 AM
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Yeah like 4 days ago lol. Shawn is the squad keeper.
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:56:23 AM
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spryguy1981 wrote:
Yeah like 4 days ago lol. Shawn is the squad keeper.

Did I miss you posting this?
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