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Poll Question : What WOTC set would you want to do for a sealed?
Choice Votes Statistics
KOTOR 3 30.000000 %
Legacy of the Force 1 10.000000 %
Jedi Academy 1 10.000000 %
Force Unleashed 0 0.000000 %
Boutny Hunters 0 0.000000 %
Masters of the Force 0 0.000000 %
Clone Strike 0 0.000000 %
Champions of the Force 0 0.000000 %
Other (please leave in comments) 5 50.000000 %

Possible WOTC Sealed for GenVassalCon Options
urbanjedi
Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:30:01 PM
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Title says it all.

Some additional info:

This event would have each player assigned 2 virtual packs of whatever the WOTC set was, and then build a squad (probably 125pts) from there and play some games.

This would not replace the v-set 20 sealed that takes place every year. This would be in addition, similar to the Rebel Storm sealed was last year.
Darth O
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Alliance and Empire is my pick, probably because it was the first day I bought a booster from all those years ago
TimmerB123
Posted: Friday, May 15, 2020 6:21:03 AM
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More info needed.

Would this be just opening virtual packs? Would this replace a set 20 sealed? If so but we want a set 20 sealed, do we need to write that in here?

If this is in addition to the vset 20 sealed, then I’ll need to think about it. Some sets made for horrible sealed events, with one piece practically winning you the tournament.


Also - assuming it’s virtual and in addition to vset 20 sealed - can we vote for a vset? We never did the odd numbered vsets in sealed at Gen Con. I’d be really interested to see how they play.
TimmerB123
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Also curious how the ones in the poll were selected
UrbanShmi
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This is in addition to the set 20 sealed.
TimmerB123
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Is this strictly WotC, or are vsets fair game?
TimmerB123
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TimmerB123 wrote:
Is this strictly WotC, or are vsets fair game?


D’oah! It says WotC in the title. I missed that
UrbanShmi
Posted: Friday, May 15, 2020 6:42:40 AM
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Just seeking interest for a WOTC tourney for now. If there's more interest in a v-set sealed, we can certainly talk about that more.
urbanjedi
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TimmerB123 wrote:
Also curious how the ones in the poll were selected


Asked a few people for some recommendations plus what I personally recall as being fun and balanced during the old WOTC days, or in the case of clone strike a continuation from last year where we did a rebel storm sealed.
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My allegiance is also to Alliance and Empire
TimmerB123
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I was bummed I missed the Rebel Storm sealed last year. In some ways it makes sense to do the next set - Clone Strike.

There are some other things we can look at though.

The Clone Wars - to commemorate that AMAZING SERIES FINAL ARC that just happened. (Seriously - if you didn't see the last 4 episodes of the final season that just finished a few weeks ago - you missed out! Some of the best Star Wars - PERIOD.)

Also looking at The Dark Times 10 year anniversary (it is for Masters of the Force as well, but that set sucked!)


So those are the 3 I have narrowed it down to
urbanjedi
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adamb0nd wrote:
My allegiance is also to Alliance and Empire


My main issue with Alliance and Empire would be that the Rares and VRs are so different on power level, that its possible that just that alone could determine who wins since all the commons and uncommons are pretty bad for a sealed environment.

Same is true with some of the other sets that didn't specifically make the list.
urbanjedi
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TimmerB123 wrote:
I was bummed I missed the Rebel Storm sealed last year. In some ways it makes sense to do the next set - Clone Strike.

There are some other things we can look at though.

The Clone Wars - to commemorate that AMAZING SERIES FINAL ARC that just happened. (Seriously - if you didn't see the last 4 episodes of the final season that just finished a few weeks ago - you missed out! Some of the best Star Wars - PERIOD.)

Also looking at The Dark Times 10 year anniversary (it is for Masters of the Force as well, but that set sucked!)


So those are the 3 I have narrowed it down to


Dark times could be really fun (and almost made the initial poll list).
TimmerB123
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urbanjedi wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
Also looking at The Dark Times 10 year anniversary


Dark times could be really fun (and almost made the initial poll list).


Ok - Dark Times is my official vote.

When thinking "what makes a great sealed event" - nostalgia and popular or power pieces are a initial pull when thinking of any particular set. However, I think for the actual gameplay, a more even distribution of cost and power makes for a more satisfying experience overall.

Dark Times is excellent in this regard.

Some support -

Most expensive Rs/VRs in the set

27 Ferus Olin
29 Bossk, Trandoshan Hunter
31 Dengar, Hired Killer
32 A'Sharad Hett
32 Dass Jennir
33 K'Kruhk, Jedi Master
34 Kir Kanos
35 4-LOM, Droid Mercenary
35 Zuckuss, Bounty Hunter
38 Merumeru
43 IG-88, Assassin Droid

43 is the most expensive piece in the set? That's GREAT for sealed. No uber clearly dominant piece to curb stomp everything else.

Most expensive Cs/UCs in the set

17 Trandoshan Elite Mercenary
20 Emperor's Hand
22 Imperial Inquisitor
23 Elite Sith Assassin
24 Jedi Watchman
24 Mandalorian Jedi Hunter
25 Imperial Sovereign Protector
27 EG-05 Jedi Hunter Droid

Some respectable pieces to supplement if you're the poor player that pulls Major Maxmilian Veers as one of your Rs/VRs.
There's always a few "dud" R/VRs, which can never be totally avoided in sealed. However, that can be overcome by mid costed Cs/UCs. Especially since there is no nuke of a R/VR in this set.

Cheapest in the set

3 Rodian Brute
7 Talz Warrior
8 501st Legion Clone Trooper
8 T'Surr
9 Gungan Bounty Hunter
9 Imperial Engineer
9 Kota's Militia
10 Rodian Raider
11 501st Legion Stormtrooper

Also important to sealed. Some legitimately decent filler to round out any squad. It actually sucks for sealed when your cheapest piece is 16.


Since there are no clearly auto-include pieces, and overall cost is fairly low, that makes for more creative squad building. It doesn't become - well I have X and Y that are obvious shoe-ins, and that takes up 3/4 of my points so I'll just throw in filler. I think there will be some really tough choices when squad building. That is great for sealed!



So there is no - "Whoever pulls X will win easily" pieces in the set. There are plenty of options to create interesting competitive (for sealed) squads. Creative squad building and skill in-game will win over lucky pulls. I really think that this set makes for a great sealed event!
urbanjedi
Posted: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:33:37 PM
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anybody else want to share opinions on this? (especially looking at people who might play in it).

So far only 6 people have voted.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:40:36 PM
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I'd actually prefer to see a mixed sealed tournament. Two boosters, but one from each of two sets, but both of roughly equal power. So don't mix Clone Strike and Jedi Academy, for example.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:42:02 PM
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I voted Jedi Academy. But then pair it with Dark Times. One of each.
adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:03:09 AM
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I've been convinced A&E would not be the best option due to powerlevel. Im very interested in playing sealed, but that's about the extent of my opinion now.
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:28:45 AM
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I need some clarity about this: for this sealed event will we be opening physical boosters (and thus paying an entry fee), or will they be virtual boosters?
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:34:37 AM
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And Tim has convinced me: Dark Times gets my vote too.

I was thinking of Champions of the Force, since that was the first set that was released when I had started playing the game (I joined after the Universe set, and was scrambling to catch up)...but CotF had so many super high-cost uniques (Darth Bane, Exar, Ulic) that I don't think it would make for a very balanced tournament.
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