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Powerful you have become, the Bloo Milk I sense in you.
Hit Points: 180
Defense: 23
Attack: 18
Damage: 20
Rarity:
Base: Large
Gender: Male
Creator: gandalfthegreatestwizard
Created: 11/15/2017
Updated: 11/21/2017

Special Abilities

  • Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
  • Rival (Cannot be in a squad with any Galactic Alliance characters)
  • Teamwork (At the end of this character's turn, he may immediately make an attack or use an ability that replaces attacks)
  • Twin Attack (Whenever this character attacks, he makes 1 extra attack against the same target)
  • Double Attack (On his turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving)
  • Unique
  • Force-Bonded Combat (This character gets +1 Attack and +1 Defense for each adjacent Unique ally with a force rating)

Force Powers

  • Master of the Force 3 (May spend Force points up to 3 times in a single turn)
  • Force Renewal 3 (This character gets 3 Force points each time he activates)
  • Lightsaber Defense (Force 1: When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
  • Mnemotheraphy (Force 5, replaces attacks; target enemy within six squares who was originally in your squad rejoins your squad, save 11.)
  • Beyond Shadows (Force 6, replaces turn: when this character next activates, he must attempt a save of 6. On a success, this character gains Mettle and Sense the Future for the rest of the skirmish, and you may immediately add a character with Light Spirit to your squad adjacent to this character. On a failure, this character takes 60 damage and is considered activated this round. This force power may only be used once per skirmish.)
  • Hassat-dur Amplification (Force 3, replaces attacks: for the rest of the skirmish, this character gains Frequency Amplification.)
  • Force 5
  • Levitation 1 (Force 1, replaces attacks: Move 1 Small or Medium ally within 6 squares to any unoccupied square within 6 squares. This move does not provoke attacks of opportunity.)
  • Aura of Freedom (Force 1: when this character would be moved by an enemy's special ability or force power, he may prevent the movement with a save of 6.)

"I'm going with you." ~Ben Skywalker to the exiled Grand Master Luke

Average Rating: --
saber1
11/15/2017 9:20:44 PM

First of all, welcome to the world of customs. For your first piece this one is pretty darn good. Now for suggestions. Beyond Shadows is interesting but not worth risk and therefore an easy ability to drop. Fold Space is cool but can be swapped for Levitation 1. Hassat-dur has such a limited scope that it's another easy drop to pare down the character. I think Mnemnotherapy should specify "in play" so it can't be used to bring back defeated characters.
saber1
11/15/2017 9:22:20 PM

The special abilities all look good, it's the Force powers which could benefit from a clean up. It's tough to represent EU Luke at that point in his arc because he is so darn powerful.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/15/2017 9:45:23 PM (Updated: 11/15/2017 10:30:21 PM)

Thanks for the tips. Fold Space is meant to be a slightly more powerful version of Levitation, because you can move characters with Emplacement (as it's teleportation, not levitation). You can also move enemy characters (as in Levitation 6) and any character regardless of base size. I agree that Beyond Shadows didn't turn out very well, so I'll either change or remove it.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/15/2017 9:46:59 PM

And I thought the fact that Mnemnotherapy said 'target character' would prevent characters out of play from being brought back, but I think I'll change it to within six squares.
surf_rider56
11/16/2017 4:04:14 AM

....ugh .... Do they have any Force points to start off with??
surf_rider56
11/16/2017 4:30:13 AM

It's most likely north of 120; 58 Base stats + SA's. You've got a LOT of specialized, High powered Force Powers. Quickie on costing. There are "Levels" of the number of SA's + FP's you can have before costs jump exponentially. Example; 5 SA's + FP;s cost x. 6 SA's + FP's cost x +5, 8 cost x + 10. You've got 10 SA's + 10 FP's.
surf_rider56
11/16/2017 4:36:09 AM

Another example of costing. Comparable EPIC characters with high numbers of abilities/powers cost 140 plus. Example Marka Ragnos 142, The Ganner 149. Exar Kun 153, Revan 161. Those are comparable people. Now, I'm not telling you what to do; heck its Your Custom and this is a "For Fun" contest. But ultimately, if you want to be taken seriously, the fan boy approach needs to be reigned in. Are Ben & Luke capable of doing all this? Very likely, but All Jedi could conceivably do most things, but we can't give Everybody Every Ability; where's the fun if they're All One Man armies.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 5:15:08 AM

Sorry, I did forget about starting force points. I am new to this making customs thing. So, of course, I also don't know anything about balanced costing. Thanks for the advice.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 5:33:26 AM

But as to your other point, this is not a 'fan boy' approach. I'm trying to represent the things that Luke did (obviously the character represents him more as a Grand Master than the young and inexperienced Knight Ben) in the Fate of the Jedi story arc. As opposed to emphasis on his prowess with a lightsaber, as SWM's Grand Master Lukes have, I chose to highlight the plethora of force techniques he learned on his journey to discover why Jacen fell to the dark side. All the custom force powers are ones that he was taught and used in the series.
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 5:33:28 AM

Welcome Gandalf! Is it the grey or the white though? Haha. And echoing the probably have to drop a few abilities. Generally simpler is better at this stage of the game as interactions get pretty complex. It's definitely up to you for your own design angle but when I finish with a piece I immediately ask myself: 1. Which ability/power is least needed, and I drop one just on principle and then usually more. 2. Is there different close enough abilities to replace what I have. 3. Does is make sense?
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 5:33:42 AM

By no means does he have 'every ability'; I merely wanted to display some diverse powers rather than just the regular, boring Force and Lightsaber Defenses.
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 5:38:37 AM

And while thematic your characters are a bit more RPG style where they have all of the abilities that they would have. But remember this is miniature combat game. Original Darth Vaders had just triple attack and Sith grip. Even though he could probably do a ton more. Consider finding the theme of what you want to do with your character and then cutting out everything that doesn't fit that. Focus on commander, force user, melee, ranged, healer, tech, etc...
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 5:39:12 AM (Updated: 11/16/2017 5:40:06 AM)

For you I would focus on their Force using aspects and drop the SAs down to just affinity, double, twin and teamwork.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 5:41:14 AM

Thanks for the tips, Grievous. I have dropped a few non-essential ones, and left mostly the custom ones, which I think are important to prevent him from being a clone of the other Master Lukes.
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 5:49:00 AM (Updated: 11/16/2017 5:49:15 AM)

Looking a lot cleaner now, I would also recommend dropping force-bonded combat (or just give him synergy +2/+2 for Force users as it's the same except a one time bonus instead of cumulative like here) or else dropping his stats super low because currently you bring 8 Felucians and these guys have a defense of 37 and attack of 34 which is a bit crazy. Aura of Freedom also should probably cost Force points or else it's a special ability, maybe "Force 1, Usable on this Characters Turn" OR "Force 1: When this character would be moved outside of its turn, prevent that movement with a save of 6"
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 5:57:59 AM (Updated: 11/16/2017 6:00:41 AM)

No, Force-bonded Combat specifies *unique* force users. So no 8 Felucians. And I believe there is a precedent in SWM for force powers without a cost? I'll check that. Edit: yes, there is. Things like Force Spirit X, and probably some others. Though I do sort of agree that it should have a cost, so I will change it after all.
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 6:17:42 AM

Missed the unique part, that's a bit safer now as max could be +8/+8 in 200 points build. But if you are playing epic 400-500 rules these guys would go back to being insane and the highest attack/defense in the game with +30/+30. You may want to switch it to adjacent unique Force allies and/or just +1/+1
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 6:45:00 AM

Still not as high as defense as Stormtroopers :P But yeah, you're right. And it does actually make more sense considering what I based the ability off that it is adjacent characters.
General_Grievous
11/16/2017 7:15:15 AM

Boom and perfect from me haha
jen'ari
11/16/2017 5:42:54 PM

I'd raise his base defense to 23. I would also drop Hassat-dur Amplification because I would never spend 3 force on it. I love force-bonded combat! and I love Aura of freedom and I love levitation at the end of the turn. Light Spirit can be any Light spirit? so from any faction? that's pretty sweet will have to look into the combos there!
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/16/2017 6:11:26 PM

Defense- OK. Hassat-dur- considering the amount of force points he has, and the fact that most of his force powers are for flavor, so there are no high cost ones that he would use often, I would spend 3 if I had a few commander effects in my squad. Light Spirit- I left the wording a tad ambiguous because I didn't know how powerful it would be, but then again NR already have Affinity for Light Spirits so there can't be anything too broken.
jen'ari
11/19/2017 1:16:27 PM

Does this piece work with lor San Tekka? The specific question being "contains Luke Skywalker" but this piece is Luke and Ben Skywalker
swinefeld
11/20/2017 10:09:47 PM (Updated: 11/20/2017 10:11:26 PM)

@jen'ari - the name contains qualifiers must appear contiguously in the specified order. The name could be Luke Skywalker with Ben, Ben and Luke Skywalker etc and then it would work.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
11/21/2017 2:04:49 AM

I'm not the biggest fan of the Disney movies, but Lor San combined with this character's Levitation would be pretty cool. I'll change the name.
jen'ari
11/21/2017 11:44:42 AM (Updated: 11/21/2017 11:45:50 AM)

But you will be a fan of the next one I hope. I have total confidence in rian Johnson after seeing a noir film titled Brick. I was blown away by the subtleties that completed characters. Brilliant film, very hopeful for this film. As for the peeve I think a little trick like lor San would do well with the high cost
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