I believe that wouldn't work for two reasons:
1) Setup (when the ability gets shared) is after the squad has been built, so Rapport no longer matters
and 2) Identical Rapports don't stack (for example, 100pt Palps and W Tarkin won't give a Vader -20 cost, the ability doesn't stack)
If I decide to pick Second Sister (Trilla Suduri)'s ability: Rapport (A character named The Inquisitor, Jedi Hunter costs 15 less in a squad with this character), does this mean that I can effectively bring in The Inquisitor, Jedi Hunter for free if I have Vader and two other Inquisitors?
No worries at all, I can see how my initial question had some presuppositions baked into it that needed fleshed out to make our situation more legible. Thanks for your response and the clarification.
You wouldn't get to make the Twin, on the natural reading of that situation, because the enemy is no longer a legal target for a melee attack. My answer was somewhat "hedged" because there are different scenarios, e.g. if you were using LS Throw in that situation you could still attack, because Twin Attack uses the same targeting rules as the normal attack, but then if you were pushed away and adjacent to another enemy (for example) you would not be able to use Twin.
I am not sure I follow: if I have twin and melee, and I swing on someone with counterpush and hit with the first attack, but I haven't used my second "twin' attack, and I get pushed back from the first, does my second "twin" attack go through?
Yeah I guess my question is whether or not the holocron counts as a character, which I think it does, but given there's a lot of nuance to the piece I wanted to make sure it does indeed.
The holocron doesn't say anything about it counting as unique. While it's immune to commander effects, Han's commander effect impacts han, not the holocron. So I don't think you can run them together without negating han's ce
If I have a Jedi Holocron on my team does that negate Han's CE of only having Unique Characters? My instinct is that the holocron is a character but maybe not.
all the Lukes from WotC can be boosted already with the Versatility and/or Hero of Endor SA's. Yoda is still good i think. The WotC Rebel force users with affinity are good with Senator Bail Organa and can be fit into a squad with Talon Karrde since they gain Independant Outfit with him.
Her being able to effect Force Users made pieces older pieces like Luke and Yoda playable again. I really think the nerf hammer came down too hard on her.
the errata was because she was too powerful with Mantis Crew. The change still makes her good with certain squads, but not with force user heavy ones. She works really well with spy/operative squads which was the goal since she is representative of her character from the show Andor.
Yes, if Luke doesn't have cover from something else. If the Gizka is the nearest enemy and all other targets have cover, the Gizka would be the only legal target.
Darth_Reignir 6/18/2026 1:01:43 AM (Updated: 6/18/2026 1:04:31 AM)
Does Diminutive mean that when targeting, you can ignore the Gizka for the purposes of selecting the nearest target? So if the Gizka is in front of Luke, can I just shoot Luke?
I think I understand. "While your squad contains only Fringe" is a condition, which would be different than "Fringe followers get +4 attack and +10 damage."
It's not that Fringe isn't a faction. It's that the word Fringe is a condition for the CE to be effective. The word Fringe doesn't get changed to Old Republic (or Vong).
As a general rule, lower case (trooper, pilot, soldier) would mean anything in the faction that counts as that thing. Upper case (Sith Trooper, Old Republic Soldiier) means only pieces with that name.
7/2/2026 12:22:42 AM
I believe that wouldn't work for two reasons: 1) Setup (when the ability gets shared) is after the squad has been built, so Rapport no longer matters and 2) Identical Rapports don't stack (for example, 100pt Palps and W Tarkin won't give a Vader -20 cost, the ability doesn't stack)
7/1/2026 10:28:22 PM
If I decide to pick Second Sister (Trilla Suduri)'s ability: Rapport (A character named The Inquisitor, Jedi Hunter costs 15 less in a squad with this character), does this mean that I can effectively bring in The Inquisitor, Jedi Hunter for free if I have Vader and two other Inquisitors?
7/1/2026 12:33:08 PM
No worries at all, I can see how my initial question had some presuppositions baked into it that needed fleshed out to make our situation more legible. Thanks for your response and the clarification.
7/1/2026 4:38:03 AM
You wouldn't get to make the Twin, on the natural reading of that situation, because the enemy is no longer a legal target for a melee attack. My answer was somewhat "hedged" because there are different scenarios, e.g. if you were using LS Throw in that situation you could still attack, because Twin Attack uses the same targeting rules as the normal attack, but then if you were pushed away and adjacent to another enemy (for example) you would not be able to use Twin.
7/1/2026 2:15:52 AM
Thought so, thanks.
7/1/2026 2:15:37 AM
I am not sure I follow: if I have twin and melee, and I swing on someone with counterpush and hit with the first attack, but I haven't used my second "twin' attack, and I get pushed back from the first, does my second "twin" attack go through?
7/1/2026 1:29:24 AM
Yes, a Holocron is a character.
7/1/2026 1:29:00 AM
Him or a character with Relay Orders.
7/1/2026 1:28:26 AM
If that enemy can still target Spidermando using the same rules as the first attack, then yes.
7/1/2026 1:26:19 AM
No, stairs (yellow) are difficult terrain.
6/30/2026 11:19:01 PM
For escape manuever, would a set of stairs which cost double movement, count as Low Objects?
6/30/2026 10:31:35 PM
If you counterpush and someone has twin, do they still get to use their second attack from Twin?
6/30/2026 6:05:58 PM
For his CE, do I have to be within 6 of him, or can i be within 6 of a mouse droid?
6/30/2026 4:46:43 PM
Yeah I guess my question is whether or not the holocron counts as a character, which I think it does, but given there's a lot of nuance to the piece I wanted to make sure it does indeed.
6/30/2026 4:42:57 PM
The holocron doesn't say anything about it counting as unique. While it's immune to commander effects, Han's commander effect impacts han, not the holocron. So I don't think you can run them together without negating han's ce
6/30/2026 4:31:48 PM
If I have a Jedi Holocron on my team does that negate Han's CE of only having Unique Characters? My instinct is that the holocron is a character but maybe not.
6/29/2026 8:31:40 PM
You keep both assuming the new Leia costs 14 or less.
6/29/2026 2:44:48 PM
Question on Versatility: if I drop to another Leia with another CE, do I get both CEs or do I have to choose one?
6/26/2026 10:32:11 PM
@Blah Blah Words- it's much easier to update a character before the card is printed rather than after.
6/26/2026 5:21:21 PM
all the Lukes from WotC can be boosted already with the Versatility and/or Hero of Endor SA's. Yoda is still good i think. The WotC Rebel force users with affinity are good with Senator Bail Organa and can be fit into a squad with Talon Karrde since they gain Independant Outfit with him.
6/26/2026 2:51:20 PM
So we can’t update pieces like Bail to have clearer wording, but we can keep updating this piece to death? Makes sense!
6/26/2026 2:37:10 PM (Updated: 6/26/2026 2:44:01 PM)
Her being able to effect Force Users made pieces older pieces like Luke and Yoda playable again. I really think the nerf hammer came down too hard on her.
6/26/2026 2:12:25 PM
the errata was because she was too powerful with Mantis Crew. The change still makes her good with certain squads, but not with force user heavy ones. She works really well with spy/operative squads which was the goal since she is representative of her character from the show Andor.
6/26/2026 1:28:53 PM
Why the errata?
6/26/2026 1:07:06 PM
extremely lame
6/26/2026 6:05:12 AM
Update #2 before going to print: Commander effect and Synergy now affect living Rebel followers without a Force rating instead of Rebel allies.
6/23/2026 3:00:20 AM
Cyborgs are living, so no.
6/23/2026 1:11:20 AM (Updated: 6/23/2026 1:17:35 AM)
Clarification, if I play Grievous on Tsmeu-6 Wheel Bike, does he benefit from Shielding Upgrades because he's a Cyborg?
6/18/2026 4:51:31 AM
Yes, if Luke doesn't have cover from something else. If the Gizka is the nearest enemy and all other targets have cover, the Gizka would be the only legal target.
6/18/2026 1:01:43 AM (Updated: 6/18/2026 1:04:31 AM)
Does Diminutive mean that when targeting, you can ignore the Gizka for the purposes of selecting the nearest target? So if the Gizka is in front of Luke, can I just shoot Luke?
6/18/2026 12:40:09 AM
Yes, normal targeting rules apply. (Any ally within line of sight is by default a legal target for abilities that target allies.)
6/18/2026 12:02:15 AM
Question about sight questions in general" do normal targetting rules apply (ie I have to target closest enemy with Force Dominate)?
6/17/2026 2:59:09 PM
Generally no. There are a couple of Fringe pieces (Mira of Nar Shaddaa) who count as Mandalorian though.
6/17/2026 12:01:35 PM
Question. If you bring in some Fringe allies to your squad, do they count as Mandalorian followers for the Armorsmith ability?
6/16/2026 7:49:00 PM
Exactly.
6/15/2026 3:27:39 PM
I think I understand. "While your squad contains only Fringe" is a condition, which would be different than "Fringe followers get +4 attack and +10 damage."
6/15/2026 5:52:03 AM
has no "Counts as Jango Fett"
6/14/2026 11:46:33 PM
Oops, that means I did an illegal during my game with someone during the last GE by stealing San Hill's "While only contains Sep" CE :P
6/14/2026 1:43:57 AM
It's not that Fringe isn't a faction. It's that the word Fringe is a condition for the CE to be effective. The word Fringe doesn't get changed to Old Republic (or Vong).
6/14/2026 12:09:30 AM
Yep.
6/13/2026 7:11:18 PM
Nope.
6/13/2026 6:24:25 PM
With IG88B, can you do Dual Weapon Use twice, since it's an ability that Replaces Attacks?
6/13/2026 6:17:11 PM
Does Charging Assault+10 work on the second swing with his twin? My instinct is no.
6/13/2026 4:55:46 PM
So he CANNOT steal Talon Karrde's CE, and if so, what's the reason? How isn't Fringe a faction?
6/10/2026 12:56:09 PM
@Lightsaber, you can use Alema Rera (spelling?) to saber dart 20 someone, or Aleema Keto to Bolt of Hatred. @gandalf thank you for the clarification
6/10/2026 9:50:49 AM
Yes, there was an update to Aggressive Negotiations several years back (lose Diplomat if you deal damage). I might have to change the text on here
6/10/2026 12:00:55 AM
I don't think so... but the only ability I can see that working with is Bastila's Turn to the Dark Side, which doesn't DO much.
6/9/2026 5:45:32 PM
Would I lose Diplomat if I used a special ability that replaces attacks?
6/8/2026 11:07:51 AM
As a general rule, lower case (trooper, pilot, soldier) would mean anything in the faction that counts as that thing. Upper case (Sith Trooper, Old Republic Soldiier) means only pieces with that name.
6/8/2026 5:58:00 AM
Yes, the CE is for all troopers who are Sith.