Another thing you might want to consider is melee defence - Kanan has counter push but it's expensive so can't be used often, Ahsoka has a singular Lightsaber Defence save, and that's it. Right now popular squads such as Hypori Grievous / San Chairman / Maul AoH or anything Sith / OR (Tulak Hord comes to mind) will wreck this squad. You'll have to play very aggressively.
Yes, but do you really need them to? An opponent often won't take the 50/50 chance to hit (plus the FP rerolls) and will just move adjacent, at which point neither Evade or Defender work.
Sly Moore? Feels odd, Caedus can't reroll the save without killing his teammates so its only a 50% chance Dominate works. Maybe add an 8pt GA Senator to boost Caedus' stats and screw with the opponent's targeting? Captain Shevu to use the Senator CE and get two acts in the first round? Unfortunately there aren't as many interesting GA pieces as I thought...
FlyingArrow 8/20/2025 4:04:44 AM (Updated: 8/20/2025 4:07:46 AM)
I think Caedus+Mines is better than Caedus the Ubertank. Mines trigger on every square and they trigger on involuntary movement. Having Barriss survive is the hardest part, but if you can get her in range while Caedus has enough Force points, it's like setting off a nuclear bomb. But it's an autoloss to Vong. And nearly so vs Ysalamiri.
I can see how he used to be the best Piece, Caedus was downright broken compared to the rest of the stuff out there 13 years ago. It's just that now, I look at him, I think "meh," and I try to figure out how I can make him decent again. This attempt was good, I liked running him around tanking as much damage as he can with the Force Spirits, the Juggernaught, and Mako. But the fact that the piece requires basically 150+ points just to make him OK is why I think he is underwhelming.
You're right, and I didn't mean to imply that Caedus is useless now. He still has a niche, and some of the newer characters (e.g. Nexus) might even make him better.
He's still good. The people who were likely to play him don't play much anymore. The game is huge and a piece not being played does not mean it is obsolete. For what Caedus does, the type of game he plays, I don't feel like he's been outclassed. There are certainly cheaper Sith lords, but the fact that they exist does not necessarily mean that older and more expensive pieces can't be played.
Angral has 1 good trick that requires him to replace his turn (i.e. stand still), Crippling Strike. Caedus has the two mentioned above, and neither of them replaces his turn. Then defensively, Makashi SM + Master Illusion + EoP seems like a better set than just Lightning Shield on Angral. The game has power crept past Caedus a fair bit, but I reckon he's still the better of the two.
Yeah, I tried him a few times in different variations and my conclusion is that there are better sith pieces out there for the cost. I could spend 54pts on this Caedus or for the same cost I could bring in Darth Angral
i wish. the original plan was to get maul and savage into NR so they could get gma. that would mean they are doing 10 attacks on the move. doesn't work though because they are sith not mando :(
no unless you are playing in a tourney run by a v-set user. it was created in a errata after wotc had stopped, you don't have to follow the rule if you don't want to.
16 activations is the cap now. Awesome squad. I have built one similar. I used an X1 Viper Droid as the shield instead of the Shieldbearers. Do like your Mon Mothma in the squad.
You can trade the Rodian BSV for Moff Nyna. She gives your stealth guys Super Stealth and +10 damage against Stealth. That would allow you to upgrade your Thugs to a better attacker. Maybe Tusken Scouts?
Usually it's crap because critical hits don't happen very often, or when they do, it's overkill to get an extra 20 damage on top of doubling base damage anyway. If you have a way of increasing the chances of or guaranteeing crits, the Chagrian can be good (e.g. with Mace LOTLS). Here it's not that great since Luke can't go too crazy with crits- Use the Force is very expensive.
by Darth_Reignir
8/28/2025 11:39:52 PM
erm actually Maul AoH is peak :/
by Udorian84
8/28/2025 12:41:06 AM
Another thing you might want to consider is melee defence - Kanan has counter push but it's expensive so can't be used often, Ahsoka has a singular Lightsaber Defence save, and that's it. Right now popular squads such as Hypori Grievous / San Chairman / Maul AoH or anything Sith / OR (Tulak Hord comes to mind) will wreck this squad. You'll have to play very aggressively.
by Udorian84
8/27/2025 12:48:15 AM
I don't know the meta very well buuuuut if it is non unique shooters then yes. Absolutely I need them to get adjacent.
by Udorian84
8/26/2025 10:48:08 PM
Yes, but do you really need them to? An opponent often won't take the 50/50 chance to hit (plus the FP rerolls) and will just move adjacent, at which point neither Evade or Defender work.
by Udorian84
8/25/2025 7:38:12 PM
evade and defender stack right?
by Udorian84
8/25/2025 7:37:35 PM
well you have to have him for affinity
by Udorian84
8/25/2025 2:47:08 PM
You wouldn't get the Battlemaster's CE but if your just using him for the Battle Ready and Camaraderie, that would work.
by Udorian84
8/25/2025 1:32:01 AM
No, it's like Opportunist and Opportunist +20.
by Udorian84
8/24/2025 2:04:35 AM
What???? Clearly not the same name! But I did think it was like soresu Mastery and soresu
by Udorian84
8/23/2025 5:41:21 PM
To further spoil the fun, Beskar 11 and Beskar 6 have the same name. They won't get two saves - they'll simply get the better version (Beskar 6).
by Udorian84
8/23/2025 3:07:10 AM
Boooooo
by Udorian84
8/23/2025 2:22:21 AM
You could honestly get by without Rieekan. Kanan has Evade, Juno and Apprentice have stealth, Ahsoka has Defense and you get Defender from the Nexus.
by Udorian84
8/22/2025 7:05:40 PM
I'm sorry to ruin your fun. Montross can't be in a squad with Jango, check his rival again.
by NoffyD
8/21/2025 9:56:35 PM
^lightsaber i know which is why i have the rancors to get goaded, but the rathtars to not get goaded
by NoffyD
8/21/2025 2:43:16 AM
this many Huges and Larges won't be fun on a lot of maps
by NoffyD
8/21/2025 1:59:33 AM
Rathtars have twin \_o_/
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 12:58:55 PM
If you're going with Sly Moore, I'd suggest Darth Sidious, Sith Emperor instead.
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 9:35:03 AM
awww, and Shevu doesn't even give him it... stupid game rules.
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 9:02:21 AM
Caedus isn't Galactic Alliance himself, he just brings them in and boosts them.
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 7:22:43 AM
Sly Moore? Feels odd, Caedus can't reroll the save without killing his teammates so its only a 50% chance Dominate works. Maybe add an 8pt GA Senator to boost Caedus' stats and screw with the opponent's targeting? Captain Shevu to use the Senator CE and get two acts in the first round? Unfortunately there aren't as many interesting GA pieces as I thought...
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 4:04:44 AM (Updated: 8/20/2025 4:07:46 AM)
I think Caedus+Mines is better than Caedus the Ubertank. Mines trigger on every square and they trigger on involuntary movement. Having Barriss survive is the hardest part, but if you can get her in range while Caedus has enough Force points, it's like setting off a nuclear bomb. But it's an autoloss to Vong. And nearly so vs Ysalamiri.
by Darth_Reignir
8/20/2025 1:26:30 AM
Dropped the Juggernaught to try giving Caedus another activation. We'll see if that makes him any better.
by Darth_Reignir
8/15/2025 2:37:57 PM
I can see how he used to be the best Piece, Caedus was downright broken compared to the rest of the stuff out there 13 years ago. It's just that now, I look at him, I think "meh," and I try to figure out how I can make him decent again. This attempt was good, I liked running him around tanking as much damage as he can with the Force Spirits, the Juggernaught, and Mako. But the fact that the piece requires basically 150+ points just to make him OK is why I think he is underwhelming.
by Darth_Reignir
8/15/2025 8:15:55 AM
You're right, and I didn't mean to imply that Caedus is useless now. He still has a niche, and some of the newer characters (e.g. Nexus) might even make him better.
by Darth_Reignir
8/15/2025 6:11:28 AM
He's still good. The people who were likely to play him don't play much anymore. The game is huge and a piece not being played does not mean it is obsolete. For what Caedus does, the type of game he plays, I don't feel like he's been outclassed. There are certainly cheaper Sith lords, but the fact that they exist does not necessarily mean that older and more expensive pieces can't be played.
by Darth_Reignir
8/14/2025 5:27:30 PM
It’s crazy that we’ve power crept past Caedus when he used to be one of if not the best piece.
by Darth_Reignir
8/14/2025 6:44:28 AM
Angral has 1 good trick that requires him to replace his turn (i.e. stand still), Crippling Strike. Caedus has the two mentioned above, and neither of them replaces his turn. Then defensively, Makashi SM + Master Illusion + EoP seems like a better set than just Lightning Shield on Angral. The game has power crept past Caedus a fair bit, but I reckon he's still the better of the two.
by Darth_Reignir
8/13/2025 5:54:15 PM
Yeah, I tried him a few times in different variations and my conclusion is that there are better sith pieces out there for the cost. I could spend 54pts on this Caedus or for the same cost I could bring in Darth Angral
by NoffyD
8/12/2025 8:24:41 PM
i wish. the original plan was to get maul and savage into NR so they could get gma. that would mean they are doing 10 attacks on the move. doesn't work though because they are sith not mando :(
by dengardude2
8/12/2025 4:12:43 AM
A classic
by NoffyD
8/12/2025 2:00:23 AM
Ya know what would be really funny? Saying this is a NR squad.
by Udorian84
8/11/2025 12:43:07 PM (Updated: 8/11/2025 12:44:59 PM)
didnt know it existed. I tried looking for the SA "storm Commando" in the character search thingy but didnt see it.
by Udorian84
8/11/2025 12:41:55 PM
Good to know! would have totally used that wrong. Can she use Invisibility Potion just by herself?
by Udorian84
8/11/2025 11:46:16 AM
Invisibility Potion only works with a Nightsister Hunter.
by Udorian84
8/11/2025 3:14:26 AM
No Shadow Scout?
by UrbanShmi
8/8/2025 4:31:33 PM
Super fun squad
by Lightsaber
8/7/2025 7:15:08 AM (Updated: 8/7/2025 7:15:35 AM)
stop ruining all my good squad ideas
by Lightsaber
8/7/2025 6:59:02 AM
You also have four commanders including Hansicle & Big Wookiee.
by Lightsaber
8/6/2025 8:25:18 PM
wow, that general hux guy seems really menacing. He'll be a main villain in the movies for sure!
by Hi-Fives
8/6/2025 3:03:52 AM
I hadn't really noticed Moralo Eval - looks like a super-good piece. Congratulations!
by dengardude2
8/5/2025 2:09:26 AM
no unless you are playing in a tourney run by a v-set user. it was created in a errata after wotc had stopped, you don't have to follow the rule if you don't want to.
by dengardude2
8/5/2025 1:43:01 AM
Good idea. That is probably better than having a low chance at fringe reserves.
by dengardude2
8/5/2025 1:41:39 AM
I never knew there was an activation limit. Does that rule still apply to WotC only squads?
by dengardude2
8/5/2025 1:13:39 AM
16 activations is the cap now. Awesome squad. I have built one similar. I used an X1 Viper Droid as the shield instead of the Shieldbearers. Do like your Mon Mothma in the squad.
by dengardude2
8/5/2025 1:03:36 AM
You can trade the Rodian BSV for Moff Nyna. She gives your stealth guys Super Stealth and +10 damage against Stealth. That would allow you to upgrade your Thugs to a better attacker. Maybe Tusken Scouts?
by NoffyD
8/4/2025 12:40:48 AM
Cool build. Mercenary and Momentum don't work together very well, unfortunately.
by gandalfthegreatestwizard
8/3/2025 11:01:23 PM
I didn't read all the Force Powers :/. Yeah, thats good then.
by gandalfthegreatestwizard
8/3/2025 10:58:33 PM
Usually it's crap because critical hits don't happen very often, or when they do, it's overkill to get an extra 20 damage on top of doubling base damage anyway. If you have a way of increasing the chances of or guaranteeing crits, the Chagrian can be good (e.g. with Mace LOTLS). Here it's not that great since Luke can't go too crazy with crits- Use the Force is very expensive.
by gandalfthegreatestwizard
8/3/2025 10:11:17 PM
Run me through why the Merc Commander is good here?
by adamb0nd
8/3/2025 9:28:13 PM
Chiss Mercenary maybe?