I agree with Randy's post from the other forum;

"I suggest returning Admiral Daala to her original printed stat block with the following change to the CE...
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Imperial trooper allies gain Double Attack.


In my opinion the worst part of Admiral Daala is that the Charging Fire is not in keeping with the Faction's overall theme and Mechanics. With Double Attack instead, the Admiral Daala player builds a kill box and you have to bust it up. This is a better scenario I believe, than allowing the troopers to attack from a range of 12+ squares."


I'm voting the #2 option.

I disagree. Up to that point the Empire was based on standing still. Representing soldiers being paid to fight versus the Twin Attack that the Rebels are full of. She is useful without a good CE. Maybe just a junk CE. We are always trying to return characters from the Bin Of Darkness. Why should she be any different?


A bonus that cannot be disrupted is powerful but needed to even allow them to compete against a lot of the field. Many squad archetypes are able to benefit from a +8/+20 with a portion of that being undisrupted. Maybe all of it.


We are now limited to 16 activations. (AD - 27) (CN - 11) (MA - 8) (AP - 20) (AGP - 16) (AO - 11) (GARY - 16)
Leaves 9 activations and 91 points. Whatever fills that 91 points to get up to 16 will have to stand up to Thon, Revan, Durge on Speeder, Luke and Leia, General Grievous, Hero of Hypori, Tulak, Malak, Mama T, Snoke and on and on. I'm guessing that you would play Nyna too, which would cut down on your number of troopers even more.


Way harder to do now.


51 different characters shut off CEs. One sits in the back all day. 2 Commanders hand out suppression and 2 commanders hand out Tenacious.


This is pretty easy to take care of in the current game. He only has 60 HP and many of the "Big Boys" are throwing 30-40 damage hits multiple times for anything but a one. Thon, Revan, Rebels and New Republic are all able to laugh at the "Bubble"


With a CE on a separate character noted above.


A powerful CE which hits 51 different commanders. With the NERF of tempo control I think this posses a lesser threat currently.

I think with all the changes made (16 activation limit, act control nerf) and new characters introduced, Daala is fine. So I voted unban the phantom menace, but I'm not that fussed if she doesn't come back. In fact I would prefer staying banned to another errata.

Two of those factors are now moot:
--She no longer has an indeterminate number of activations, because she's capped at 16. And we've seen that she needs a least a few other commanders in her squad in order to function properly, so that means less room for trooper spam. Or she could forego one CE at a time in order to gain 1 more trooper each time.
--She can no longer activate only one at a time (at least not easily) Ozzel now requires LOS in order to work, and he'll get picked off very easily.

--Opportunist and Prideful and Ysalamiri and rerolls...these factors are still in play. Are they enough to make her overpowered? Or is she now simply on the level with the rest of the powercreep that has happened over the past 5 years while she's been sleeping?

Several squads have multiple damage boosts, so the Prideful/Opportunist combo really isn't much of a thing anymore...and depending on how she builds her squad, she might be starting with troopers that have 10dmg as their starting point, which means 30dmg attacks. I'm curious how many Championship squads this year had attackers on their squad who did 40dmg per hit...my hunch is that nearly all squads had that capability, because the damage-creep is real.

Personally, if we were going to change her CE from Charging Fire to Double Attack, there would be no reason to use her, since most troopers will die in one hit and therefore will never be able to stand still for a Double Attack. Therefore, if we were going to change her CE, my preference would be to change it to Charging Assault.

No changes.

Unban or leave banned. I voted to unban the phantom menace, but if she stays banned, that's fine too.