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Joined: 4/29/2008 Posts: 1,841 Location: Canada
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The Killik Queen has... Camaraderie (Killik allies gain Cunning Attack and Exclusive Loyalty)
She also has... Join (A living character who activates within 6 squares of this character gains Killik for the rest of the skirmish; save 16. An enemy Killik damaged by this character joins your squad for the rest of the round; the enemy can avoid this effect with a save of 6. On a roll of a natural 1, it joins your squad for the rest of the skirmish instead.)
So my question: If another character (whether a Rodian Brute, or Dash Rendar, or whoever) joins the Queen's squad via a failed Join save, does that character gain Cunning Attack and Exclusive Loyalty?
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Joined: 4/30/2017 Posts: 1,003 Location: Lower Hutt, New Zealand
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Yes. (Until it leaves the squad.)
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Joined: 4/18/2008 Posts: 1,150 Location: Kokomo
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Rodian Brute only has 10 HP, so if the Killik Queen so much as sneezes on him, he’s toast before he can "join" anything.
As for Dash Rendar, if he joins your squad, then congratulations: you now have a new Cunning Attack and Exclusive Loyalty Killik with swagger.
They activate within 6 squares → now they’re Killik (Save 16 to resist).
Then you damage them with the Queen, and they choose to avoid the effect (Save 6)... and roll a natural 1.
Boom. They’re yours for the whole skirmish, and yes, they get the full Killik welcome package.
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Joined: 10/14/2008 Posts: 1,496 Location: Chokio, MN
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i talked this over with urbanjedi a year or so ago after the Killik Queen came out about how to get the Camaderie to trigger on your own pieces that become Killiks in the course of the game. You need to have something trigger it for them where it causes any at the start of the skirmish effects to occur. There aren't a lot of these, but if you have, for example, abilities like Reserves, Porg's Nest, dismount, Vehicle, or Force Dominate, these kinds of abilities will trigger this check for all Killiks in the squad to gain that Cunning Attack and Exclusive Loyalty bonus, thereby giving them those abilities from that point onward. Do for example, if you have Maul and Dengar on Swoop Bike in a squad with the Killik Queen and Maul fails the Join save and gets the Killik SA, he won't get Cunning attack and Exclusive Loyalty right away. If you use Dengar on Swoop however after Maul has gotten Killik, and Dengar uses the Vehicle SA to swap into a different version of Dengar, the at the start of the skirmish condition will trigger since you are bringing in a new character and things could change in the game. From that point on, now Maul becomes a true Killik with all his Killik bonuses from the Queen.
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