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I had an idea for a tournament called Galactic Escalation. Everyone starts with a 100pt team they create. 1st round, everyone plays their 100 pt team. Next round, you have to use the same pieces in the 100pt team, but you get to add 50pts more to make it a 150pt team. Next round is now 200 pts where you use your 150pt team and adding 50 more points to your squad to get to 200. Last round is Epic! Everyone adds 1 epic piece according to their faction and it is now down to who has built the most overall consistent team. Winner is based on your total score over the entire event. Each round would take place like a normal tournament so you play your 100pt, 150pt, 200pt, and 200pt + epic team multiple times against everyone else's squad. I think it'd be a ton of fun! Definitely a long form tournament. I'd see it taking 4 months to complete. Anyone interested in this? We'd need at least 4 people who could commit to a 4 month long tournament and it'd be round robin if we have just a few or if more people are signed up, we can do it like swiss tournament pairings.
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Sounds interesting. I'm in.
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Sounds interesting but I think we should find a way to add more rounds. 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, then Epic 500. More rounds = more fun. You could even do a double epic at the end lol.
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It sounds like the idea is multiple rounds at each point level.
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Yeah, each round is played out over a few games. Your total points after that round then get added to all the future round scores and the person with the highest total after 4 rounds wins. If there is a tie, there would be a matchup with their final teams to determine the winner. It'd be interesting to see what people design when they keep in mind that each squad gets built up on and eventually you get a epic piece to add.
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I’d really like to play in this. I don’t care how long it takes, but at least 1 game per week is a good idea.
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I will play
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spryguy1981 wrote:Sounds interesting but I think we should find a way to add more rounds. 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, then Epic 500. More rounds = more fun. You could even do a double epic at the end lol. If this works out well, I could definitely see adding 2 more rounds in the future just like you said. I just wanted to test this out first like this since 4 rounds taking place over a 4 month+ period is a rather large commitment. I'd like to give participants 1 week to get there match in.
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Mando wrote:spryguy1981 wrote:Sounds interesting but I think we should find a way to add more rounds. 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, then Epic 500. More rounds = more fun. You could even do a double epic at the end lol. If this works out well, I could definitely see adding 2 more rounds in the future just like you said. I just wanted to test this out first like this since 4 rounds taking place over a 4 month+ period is a rather large commitment. I'd like to give participants 1 week to get there match in. @ Tint. Mando posted this back in 2022, before the very first GE Tourney, after reading a post by spryguy1981. Any thoughts of trying something new out for the 2025 Fall GE Tournament? Also, in a post by Mando, at the end of the first GE tourney, he had said that he might switch back and forth from Winter to Fall, with an "Epic" being brought in the last round. I believe that you won the first GE Tourney with this squad; Thereisnotry: http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/240371/escalating-mandos-375-epic--Escalating Mandos 375 Epic-- 136 Boba Fett, Mandalore 58 Mandalore the Vindicated 56 Jango Fett, Mandalore 38 Mandalore the Resurrector 28 Kelborn 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 24 Mandalorian Tactician 6 Mandalorian Demolitionist (374pts. 8 activations) Map: Theed Palace I did read the discussion that your team was doing ridiculous damage that made for a "long day" for your opponent. Was there just too many peops that didn't want "Epics" to be brought back? Also, would people be open to adding 2 additional rounds, 250 and 300, like Spryguy suggested, or would that just be too much/too long of a tourney? What about just 1 additional round, at say, 250pts?
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I wonder if we adjusted things a little bit and then added 1 more round:
100
150
200
300
500 with an epic piece
I think we'd need to move the 350 round to 300, because some epic pieces cost more than 150pts and we wouldn't want people to have to skew their squads in order to fit their desired epic piece into the squad.
Perhaps when I start to get things rolling for the GE event I'll include a poll to see if people would be interested in a 500pt round.
Another idea: Perhaps the playoff rounds could be variable? In the past, we got to the 350pt total for the final round of Swiss, and then all of the playoff rounds were also played at 350pts; this skewed squad design to prioritize the 350pt squad, hoping that the squad would do well enough at the lower levels. But what if, for each playoff round, we randomly determined what point level to play for that round? So the quarterfinals could potentially be played at 200, then the semis at 100, and the finals potentially at 300.
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thereisnotry wrote:I wonder if we adjusted things a little bit and then added 1 more round:
100
150
200
300
500 with an epic piece
I think we'd need to move the 350 round to 300, because some epic pieces cost more than 150pts and we wouldn't want people to have to skew their squads in order to fit their desired epic piece into the squad.
Perhaps when I start to get things rolling for the GE event I'll include a poll to see if people would be interested in a 500pt round.
Another idea: Perhaps the playoff rounds could be variable? In the past, we got to the 350pt total for the final round of Swiss, and then all of the playoff rounds were also played at 350pts; this skewed squad design to prioritize the 350pt squad, hoping that the squad would do well enough at the lower levels. But what if, for each playoff round, we randomly determined what point level to play for that round? So the quarterfinals could potentially be played at 200, then the semis at 100, and the finals potentially at 300. I like your idea of 100, 150, 200, 300, then 500 and add an epic. However, I would prefer to not make the playoff round random. I feel that the build up is what makes the tournament fun, and to go back to your build from an earlier round, kinda deflates the excitement or the "escalation", to be able to use all the "bullets" or "weapons", in your arsenal.
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That's a fair point.
However, the more I think about it, the less confidence I have that including the 500pt Epic format will be workable. That's because, in order to keep the recent 500pt Epic tournament (at Vassal Con) balanced, we needed to include these restrictions:
--ABM doesn't work
--Max of 3 CEs functional
If we don't include these restrictions, 500pts can get pretty insane. But with these restrictions, wouldn't it severely restrict what people play for the rest of the tournament? (For example, I wouldn't even consider playing OR if Bastila is nerfed.)
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thereisnotry wrote:That's a fair point.
However, the more I think about it, the less confidence I have that including the 500pt Epic format will be workable. That's because, in order to keep the recent 500pt Epic tournament (at Vassal Con) balanced, we needed to include these restrictions:
--ABM doesn't work
--Max of 3 CEs functional
If we don't include these restrictions, 500pts can get pretty insane. But with these restrictions, wouldn't it severely restrict what people play for the rest of the tournament? (For example, I wouldn't even consider playing OR if Bastila is nerfed.) I liked your restrictions at the 500pt VassalCon event. As far as Bastila goes, instead of banning her or having ABM not work, how about this; 1. ABM turns off at the end of the round. 2. Bastila is ineligible to be chosen for "Light Tutor".
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thereisnotry wrote:That's a fair point.
However, the more I think about it, the less confidence I have that including the 500pt Epic format will be workable. That's because, in order to keep the recent 500pt Epic tournament (at Vassal Con) balanced, we needed to include these restrictions:
--ABM doesn't work
--Max of 3 CEs functional
If we don't include these restrictions, 500pts can get pretty insane. But with these restrictions, wouldn't it severely restrict what people play for the rest of the tournament? (For example, I wouldn't even consider playing OR if Bastila is nerfed.) Also keep in mind that Bastila can benefit from the Fringe character "Dray", who has the special ability "Dark Master", that gives her access to additional Force, if Dray has enough Force for her to activate ABM.
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thereisnotry wrote:I wonder if we adjusted things a little bit and then added 1 more round:
100
150
200
300
500 with an epic piece
I think we'd need to move the 350 round to 300, because some epic pieces cost more than 150pts and we wouldn't want people to have to skew their squads in order to fit their desired epic piece into the squad.
Perhaps when I start to get things rolling for the GE event I'll include a poll to see if people would be interested in a 500pt round.
Another idea: Perhaps the playoff rounds could be variable? In the past, we got to the 350pt total for the final round of Swiss, and then all of the playoff rounds were also played at 350pts; this skewed squad design to prioritize the 350pt squad, hoping that the squad would do well enough at the lower levels. But what if, for each playoff round, we randomly determined what point level to play for that round? So the quarterfinals could potentially be played at 200, then the semis at 100, and the finals potentially at 300. 100% agree with you on the poll thing. The attendance for GE has been really good from season to season. You certainly wouldn't want to lose players, that feel that "Epics" change the direction that Mando has been taking this tournament. Not sure if this will apply ( depending on the poll results ), but the old cliche, "if its not broke, don't fix it!", might apply if players don't want Epics. Could you include in the poll, if players don't want "Epics" in the tourney, how about the idea of just adding another round, for example, go to 250pts, then a last round of adding 1, 2, or 3 characters ( totalling 100pts max ), for a total of 350pts? ( 100, 150, 200, 250, & 350 )
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