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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 172 Location: Yuuzhan'tar
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Well... it's been awhile since I've been on here. I was doing some reminiscing this past week and wanted to relive and remember the glory days of the WOTC era and the first couple years of the v-sets. So I gathered some data from old FB pages, bloomilk, gamers, and youtube. I plugged it in to chat to determine if it could find any additional data from the competitive scene (gencon champs, regionals). It's unfortunate the old dci rankings doesn't exist, and if one of you happen to have a later copy of it or a link to one floating around the web, I would be happy to plug this into the analysis.
But, my end goal, was to rank the Top 20 best competitive star wars miniatures players during the height of the competitive format. So from the WOTC days to the first two years of v-sets, when the Gen Con champs were pretty well attended. Keep in mind, this is no slight to those that came after and could be, arguably, just as competitive to those that came before. So, let those of us old timers reminisce.
Method
The ranking rewards:
Result Points Gen Con Championship 20 Gen Con finalist 14 Gen Con semifinalist 10 Gen Con Top 8 7 Regional champion 8 Regional finalist 5 Regional semifinalist 3 Regional Top 8 1 Significant side-event win 2
Final Top 20: Competitive Era Through 2012 1. Bill Russell — 82 points
Bill is the clear number one.
His résumé contains the most impressive combination of championship peak and sustained elite performance:
2008 Gen Con champion 2009 Gen Con finalist 2012 Gen Con finalist Additional championship-cut appearances, including 2011 Strong performances in major side events
Bill reached the championship match in three different seasons across a five-year span. He won with Rebel Speedy Cannon in 2008, returned with Rebel Slow Cannon in 2009, and then reached the 2012 final with Republic Skybuck.
That is extraordinary adaptability. The tournament format changed from 150 to 200 points, WotC production ended, V-sets arrived, and the meta transformed—yet Bill remained a championship contender.
Why number one: Nobody else through 2012 matches his combination of a title, two additional finals and overall championship longevity.
2. Deri Morgan — 43 points
Deri’s case begins with the 2009 Gen Con championship, won with his Rebel “Lobbin’ Luke” Cannon squad.
His documented résumé includes:
2009 Gen Con champion Additional Gen Con elimination-round success 2009 regional champion 2010 regional champion Continued relevance into 2012
Deri was more than someone who hit the right squad for one tournament. His regional championships in consecutive years demonstrate that he consistently understood the competitive environment.
Why number two: His championship gives him the advantage over several more prolific regional players, while his regional record proves that the championship was not an isolated run.
3. Trevor Payton — 41 points
Trevor was Bill Russell’s closest rival in terms of high-end championship achievement.
His results include:
2008 Gen Con finalist 2012 Gen Con champion 2011 Gen Con Top 8 Excellence with multiple factions and squad styles
He reached the 2008 final with the wonderfully named Rebel “Boba Fett, Rebel Hero” squad, then returned four years later to win with Republic GOWK/Mace.
That four-year distance is important. Trevor was elite in both the late 150-point WotC environment and the early 200-point V-set environment.
Why number three: Two championship matches and one title make Trevor an unquestionable all-time great. He trails Deri narrowly because Deri’s supporting regional record is stronger in our surviving dataset.
4. Tim Ballard — 40 points
Tim is probably the best pure regional player of the period.
His documented accomplishments include:
2009 regional champion 2010 regional champion Three separate 2011 regional championships Five regional victories from 2009–2011 Major influence on Separatist Lancer construction and play
Tim’s “Gunray’s Gladiators” and related Lancer concepts were copied, adapted and successfully played throughout the community. Even the 2011 California champion’s squad was credited as deriving from Tim’s design.
Unlike the three players ahead of him, Tim had not yet reached a Gen Con final by the 2012 cutoff. That keeps him fourth despite his remarkable consistency.
Why number four: The strongest regional résumé we can document, coupled with major influence on the competitive meta. A championship final or title before the cutoff might have moved him into the top two.
5. Ian Gordon — 36 points
Ian’s defining accomplishment is the 2011 Gen Con championship with Old Republic Beef.
His results include:
2011 Gen Con champion 2010 PA/MD regional champion 2011 Virginia regional champion
Ian succeeded in consecutive seasons with significantly different approaches. His 2010 victory came with Rebel Commandos, while his 2011 championship came with an Old Republic squad built around Bastila Shan and durable Jedi.
Why number five: A Gen Con title plus multiple regional victories. He wins the tiebreak over David Weeks because a championship victory carries more historical weight than two semifinals.
6. David Weeks — 36 points
Weeks may have the best résumé here without a championship victory during the cutoff period.
His documented results include:
2010 regional champion 2011 Gen Con semifinalist 2012 Gen Con semifinalist 2012 North Carolina regional champion
Two consecutive Gen Con semifinals are a tremendous demonstration of reliability. Weeks was one of the few players who repeatedly advanced deep into the tournament rather than relying upon one extraordinary weekend.
He won the 2012 North Carolina Regional with Sith Revan/Kaan/Jaq and later reached the Gen Con semifinals that same season.
Why number six: He ties Ian in points but lacks Ian’s championship. Nevertheless, his repeated Gen Con success makes him one of the safest choices in the entire ranking.
7. Jason Kiernan — 34 points
Jason “urbanjedi” Kiernan combined repeated regional victories with a 2011 championship semifinal.
His results include:
2010 regional champion 2011 Michigan regional champion 2011 Gen Con semifinalist 2012 Illinois regional champion
His Illinois victory is especially interesting because he returned to the fully WotC Rebel Cannon framework that had won the 2010 championship, replacing Obi-Wan’s Force Spirit with Juno Eclipse for additional Disruptive.
That victory demonstrated an ability to recognize when an older squad remained viable in a changing environment.
Why number seven: Three regional championships and a Gen Con semifinal across three consecutive seasons. He lacks the title of those above him, but his consistency is excellent.
8. Graham Bingham — 29 points
Graham was one of the dominant players of the 2011 regional season.
His documented résumé includes:
2011 Atlanta regional champion 2011 Kentucky regional champion 2011 Tennessee regional champion 2012 North Carolina regional finalist
Three regional victories in a single season is extremely difficult to dismiss. Graham then demonstrated that it was not confined to 2011 by reaching another regional final in 2012 with Old Republic.
Why number eight: His regional record is outstanding, but the surviving evidence does not show a corresponding deep Gen Con finish through 2012. That creates a natural dividing line between Graham and the players above him.
9. Daniel Stephens — 28 points
Daniel “Echo” Stephens won the first community-run post-WotC championship.
His accomplishments include:
2010 Gen Con champion 2011 Maryland regional champion
His 2010 Rebel Cannon squad—Han Smuggler, Luke Rebel Commando, Elite Rebel Commandos, Leia, Rieekan, Dodonna and Crix—became one of the defining squads of the late WotC environment.
The championship also carries historical significance: 2010 was the first 200-point championship and the first after WotC announced the end of production.
Why number nine: A championship always matters enormously. He sits below Graham because the surviving results show less repeated high-level activity around that championship.
10. Kelly Krieble — 20 points
Kelly “Dr. Divot” won the 2007 Gen Con Championship with Republic Broken Boba.
That championship represents the highest possible individual achievement, and it occurred in a tournament environment quite different from the later 200-point game.
Unfortunately, much of Kelly’s surrounding tournament history has disappeared with the old WotC forums. That makes it difficult to determine whether he should be placed higher.
Why number ten: A verified championship guarantees a Top 10 position. The lack of surviving regional-era evidence prevents a stronger comparison with the repeatedly documented players above him.
11. Aaron Brueckman — 20 points
Aaron “Lobostele” Brueckman was a major player in the late WotC period.
His résumé combines:
A documented 2009 regional championship Championship-cut and major-event success Strong results with high-level Rebel builds
Contemporary reporting describes Aaron and Bill Russell as established players of superior skill, which fits the competitive record we can reconstruct.
Why number eleven: Aaron’s overall body of results is stronger than that of several one-result finalists below him, but Kelly’s Gen Con championship wins their points tie.
12. James Naegele — 18 points
James “FrakkinMando” Naegele was a regional champion in consecutive seasons:
2009 regional champion 2010 regional champion Additional major-event success
Winning in consecutive seasons is meaningful because the game was changing rapidly during that period. James demonstrated that his success was not tied to a single squad or isolated tournament.
Why number twelve: His repeated regional record places him ahead of players with only one documented major finish. He falls short of the Top 10 because we lack a comparable Gen Con elimination-round result.
13. Hinkbert — 18 points
Hinkbert’s 2012 season was excellent:
Western New York regional champion PA/MD regional semifinalist 2012 Gen Con Top 8
His principal squad was the Republic GOWK/Mace “Homicidal Surgery” construction. The 2012 regional thread specifically notes that he finished first and third at separate events with the squad.
That regional performance was then validated by reaching the Gen Con quarterfinals.
Why number thirteen: A regional win, another Top 4 and a Gen Con Top 8 in one season is a strong complete-season résumé. James Naegele receives the slight edge for winning across multiple years.
14. James Wyszynski III — 16 points
James “jew3/jameswys” Wyszynski won two documented 2009 regionals.
That alone places him among the most successful players of the first regional season. Winning twice is particularly valuable because those events were geographically dispersed and generally required surviving Swiss followed by elimination games.
Why number fourteen: Two regional championships create a clear case. He trails James Naegele because Naegele’s wins came in different seasons, which provides more evidence of sustained adaptability.
15. Ben Johnson — 16 points
Ben “buttcabbage” Johnson also won regionals in consecutive seasons:
2010 regional champion 2011 Missouri regional champion
His results span the transition from the final WotC-only environment into early V-set competition.
Why number fifteen: Nearly interchangeable with James Wyszynski. James receives the narrow advantage because both of his victories occurred during the larger inaugural regional circuit, but Ben’s cross-era adaptability is a strong counterargument.
16. Dave Battey — 14 points
Dave’s primary claim is a documented Gen Con Championship final during the early period.
A championship final carries more weight than a regional victory because it requires advancement through the game’s strongest and largest annual tournament. Unfortunately, surviving documentation of Dave’s surrounding results is limited.
Why number sixteen: A national final places him above players whose best result was a semifinal. Incomplete early records make it difficult to place him more aggressively.
17. Brandon Patton — 14 points
Brandon “Bsp02” reached the 2010 Gen Con final with Imperial “Gimp Imps,” built around Lord Vader and Imperial swap mechanics.
He finished second to Daniel Stephens in the first 200-point championship.
That single result represents an exceptional peak, particularly because it came during a major format transition.
Why number seventeen: Championship finalist is enough for this range. Dave Battey receives the slight advantage because his result came in the less completely preserved early era, although Brandon could reasonably be placed ahead.
18. Matt Spry — 14 points
Matt “spryguy1981” Spry reached the 2011 Gen Con final with Republic Skybuck.
He defeated a strong field before losing to Ian Gordon’s Old Republic squad in the championship match. Skybuck was one of the defining archetypes of this competitive period, and piloting it through the championship field required far more than simply choosing a recognized squad.
Why number eighteen: His documented peak equals Battey and Patton, but we have less supporting regional evidence through the cutoff. Positions 16–18 are effectively one tier.
19. Matthew Peterson — 14 points
Matthew Peterson’s place comes from an early championship-final appearance.
Like Dave Battey, he is penalized by the destruction of much of the WotC forum archive. We know enough to credit the final, but not enough to reconstruct the broader season or determine how often he performed well in other events.
Why number nineteen: The championship final keeps him inside the Top 20, but the lack of surviving supporting evidence places him last among the finalists.
20. Dave Fanjoy — 10 points
Dave Fanjoy receives the final position based on a documented Gen Con semifinal.
A semifinal is a genuine elite finish: reaching the final four of the largest event carries more weight than a single regional victory.
He narrowly takes the last spot over Gerry/DarphNader only as a historical-cutoff judgment. Gerry’s 2012 semifinal is equally valuable under the formula, so this is essentially a tie.
Why number twenty: Gen Con semifinalist, with the acknowledgement that incomplete records make this the most debatable position.
Just outside the Top 20 Gerry / DarphNader — 10 points
Gerry reached the 2012 Gen Con semifinals. Numerically he is tied for twentieth and could reasonably replace Fanjoy. I would officially record this as 20T, even though a traditional Top 20 requires choosing one.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 4/29/2008 Posts: 2,121 Location: Canada
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Hey, cool write-up! I like the ranking system you developed too.
There can be no question that Bill Russell was the best player in the game, back when he was playing. Even beyond the results recorded and ranked here, he consistently won the vast majority of his matches and regularly won events (whether big or small). I remember him mentioning that he had never failed to make the Top 8 of the GenCon Championship when he played. That was true for Matt Peterson too; they always practiced together and would often play identical squads in the Championship because they'd analyze the meta and test everything and identify what squad had the best chance of winning it all.
I played against Bill in the 2008 GenCon Championship final (my Boba Fett Rebel Hero vs his Han Scoundrel and Luke's LS squad). He won that one, but then in our championship rematch 4 years later (my GOWK/Mace vs his Skybuck) I got my revenge. For the record, I roomed with Bill and Matt and JohnnyB815 at GenCon in 2008...it was my first ever time at GenCon and I didn't know what to expect, but I ended up having an absolute blast of a time.
I didn't play in many Regional events since I lived in Ontario and there just weren't a lot of them nearby. Eric Frost (who lived close to me) and I took a few road-trips to a regional here or there, but not as often as we would've liked to. One time, Eric and I decided over the phone on a Friday afternoon that we'd drive that evening to MI for the Regional that was happening the next day. That was no problem, as long as I was back on Saturday night because I had to preach at my church that Sunday morning (I was a pastor in Ontario). Well, we had car trouble on the way home Saturday evening, and so we ended up having to get a tow truck that would tow his car across the border for us! After lots of phone calls and failed solutions, we finally arrived home on Sunday morning with 45 minutes to spare! lol. That was crazy.
One of my favorite SWM gatherings over the years (aside from the irreplacable GenCon, of course) was FrostyCon, which Gerry Russel (DarphNader) hosted every February at his home in Rochester, NY. He probably held FC for 4 or 5 consecutive years, if I recall correctly. The weekend involved cool prize support (much of it provided generously by Gerry himself) and in addition to the main event SWM tournament, it also included a variety of different SW-themed events over the years: an X-Wing Miniatures tournament, some Epic 500 events, etc.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 172 Location: Yuuzhan'tar
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Thanks!
Oh man, yeah I was at GenCon 2008 too and it was my first as well. Had a blast of a time seeing all of those people I had seen on the forums back then. I played in the Championship too, I always played the Yuuzhan Vong.... finished in the middle of the pack but at least top of those that played Vong in the Champs. hahaha I never got to play against Bill in the Finals...I was too far down in the tables to do that.
Being from the Carolinas, most of the players I played against was Weeks, Daniel Stephens, Graham, and spryguy1981. Me and buddy were discussing the days of Regionals and GenCon and that led me into creating that ranking system. Just for fun, and not without flaws I'm sure.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 4/29/2008 Posts: 2,121 Location: Canada
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Yeah, the "Atlanta crew" was always known for having a very skilled group of players. There were several regions with thriving SWM communities: Chicago (the Urbans, Tim, Deri, etc), West Michigan (Lou, James, Ben, Bill, Matt, etc), and several more regions that I'm not remembering the specific names of. Personally, my only venue for any kind of regular play was Vassal...and on Vassal I could play with just about anyone, including some friends I made in Germany ("IKillGungans" was his name, I think) and France and other places.
We regularly had 50-60+ players at the Championship, and there was so much excitement around the game. Good times!
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
Joined: 7/27/2008 Posts: 1,622 Location: Los Angeles, California
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jhc36 wrote:Well... it's been awhile since I've been on here. I was doing some reminiscing this past week and wanted to relive and remember the glory days of the WOTC era and the first couple years of the v-sets. So I gathered some data from old FB pages, bloomilk, gamers, and youtube. I plugged it in to chat to determine if it could find any additional data from the competitive scene (gencon champs, regionals). It's unfortunate the old dci rankings doesn't exist, and if one of you happen to have a later copy of it or a link to one floating around the web, I would be happy to plug this into the analysis.
But, my end goal, was to rank the Top 20 best competitive star wars miniatures players during the height of the competitive format. So from the WOTC days to the first two years of v-sets, when the Gen Con champs were pretty well attended. Keep in mind, this is no slight to those that came after and could be, arguably, just as competitive to those that came before. So, let those of us old timers reminisce.
With all due respect, I have to say that even though I am a West Coast SWM player, I have been playing and competing in SWM since the game was released in 2004, and I have been running SWM's events at Gaming Conventions in California since 2006. I would like you to give me credit on this list as well. Here is my resume; In 2006, at GenCon Indy in the 150pt SWM's championship on Saturday, in the championship game, I lost to Bill's "Black and Blue Classic" squad ( I was playing a "Black and Blue" variant squad ) 14 pts.In 2008, at GenCon Indy, in a tough, elite, and top tier playing field of 90 participants, I was a Top 8 finisher, in which I lost to Matt Peterson's Rebel "Speedy Cannon" squad ( slight variant to Bill's championship "Speedy Cannon" squad ) in the first round of the playoffs ( I played a Boba, Han NR, and uggie squad ) 7 pts.In 2011, I was the California Regional Champion. 8 pts.In 2012, I was again, the California Regional Champion. 8 pts.So, then I believe, I should be on your list as well, with at grand total of; 37 pts.PS As Bill was the 2006 champion, he should have an additional 20 pts., bringing his grand total to 102 pts. PPS In 2006, at GenCon Indy, I was also the finalist runner-up in the 150 pt constructed event that took place on Sunday, which would give me an additional 14 pts., however there were only a few players competing in the Sunday 150 pt event ( Bill Russell didn't compete that day ), so I would concede that, I probably shouldn't be awarded any points for that event on that day.
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
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Now, if your determination is that California regionals didn't carry the weight of the mid-west/east coast regionals as far as competition goes, then I should at least be on your list with my finalist placing in 2006, and my top 8 accomplishment in 2008;
14 pts + 7 pts = 21 pts.
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