maybe these few pieces have commander effects listed so they wont benefits as being followers???? this a possibility???

Yea I wish they took more care at not making mistakes. It they are like our facility that shut down a few years ago that made CDs/DVDs they have cut the quality staff down to the bare bones. What am I talking about--they already make them in China where there is no quality control

BTW Jim told me he had all the map packs already so they must have been produced awhile back and just waiting for release dates. He wouldn't let me peek at them because of that nondisclosure he signed hehe. Anyone know off hand the release dates for the other two? I'm just going to buy them all at once.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. It's time we had some more love and care be put into these minis. I read an interview w/Rob & Sara on the WOTC forums, and they just sound so lost... It's really frightening. Check out the link here and judge for yourself:

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1103317

As I'm a Yuuzhan Vong fan, question # 30 was particularly distressing to me:

30. Will the Yuuzhan Vong faction get some more uniques to fill in the void?

ROB: Not in the coming year

Yeah, I guess I was being a bit harsh. I know it can't be easy to do that job... nothings easy. However, I do want to point out that I feel there should be more research into some of the characters before they become minis. Enthusiasm only goes so far... All in all, I'd say that alot more attention to detail needs to be put to future sets...

madlaust I think you should get the next two map packs

have some faith

Are either of the two new maps banned from DCI play? I heard the one with the downed vehicle was too open and was banned. However, looking at it there seems to be plenty of cover to me. Anyone heard any truth to this?

They're not banned from DCI if they're never put on the list to begin with.

They won't be DCI legal, if that's what you're getting at.

The maps aren't necessarily banned, they just haven't been made legal yet. In order to keep DCI fairly balanced, the rules for maps are opposite of the figures. Figures are immediately legal as soon as the official street date arrives. Maps have to be added to the appropriate lists in the Floor Rules before they'll become legal.

It's certainly possible that one or both maps may become DCI legal, but not until the next Floor Rules update, which should happen in June or July.

I wouldn't hold your breath though.

Nelvaan plains is WAY too open, and there are a total of about 7 safe squares to start in on the right hand side, with no safe squares for Large or Huge characters.

Teth is more balanced, and at least has safe starting squares, but it will be an exceptionally boring, if not frustrating game on that map every time. You'll end up facing Super Stealth 90% of the time on that map, and you'll get slaughtered as you try to run down the center of the field to advance close enough to hit the enemy. It's almost as bad as Korriban in that regard, IMO.

From the majority of DCI players that I've discussed it with, they are all either opposed to them being legal, or on the fence at best. I've yet to really chat with anyone who was absolutely convinced they were good for the DCI side of the game.

It's really unfortunate, but even Chris West, the guy who designed the maps, said that he wasn't sure they'd end up being DCI legal, and he's said that at least a couple of the maps in the other upcoming packs should be better for the DCI crowd.

The guy who makes the maps has said he doesn't think of just DCI when he makes maps. Honestly, that is fine. Not every map will be perfect. While he did make Ossus, Teth Courtyard, and Nelvaan, he also made the wonderful Taris and Train Station maps. I also like Broken Christophis and Muunilist II.

Sounds like you're group needs to get some more maps then.

There are 11 maps legal for 200 points (I think that's all of them):
Rancor Pit
Ruined Base
Yavin Temple
Echo Base Outpost
Muunilist Commerce Plaza (new one)
Train Station
Cristophsis (broken)
Taris
Starship (Hardboard)
Throne Room
Coruscant

Of course, some of those are tougher to find now than others, but it's not too hard. Rancor Pit, Ruined Base, and Yavin Temple all come from the Attack on Endor pack, which you can usually buy for about $10 shipped through a few different online places. Echo Base Outpost you might be able to get a good deal on now in some places. And there's no excuse to not have Train Station and Cristophsis (broken) since they came from the CW Starter. Oh, and Throne Room was in the 2007 Starter. So, for $30 you could have 6 maps that are legal for 200 points.

This doesn't even include all the other maps that are legal for 100/150, but not for 200 (Death Star, Muunilist, Mos Eisley, etc.).

Only 3 maps week to week? Make a house rule for a week that people have to try something different. :D