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joverfield
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:00:30 AM
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is this attack still considered melee?
Doogle126
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:09:09 AM
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Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.

No, because it ignores the Melee attack restriction
joverfield
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:36:58 AM
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i see this is the definition for lightsaber throw but gmy has

Lightsaber Throw 3
Force 3, replaces turn: Choose 1 enemy within line of sight, ignoring cover. Make an attack against the chosen enemy and against each character adjacent to that enemy.

doesnt say anything about it being a non melee
joverfield
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:37:38 AM
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i am assuming you are right and it is still non-melee, just wanted to make sure i play it correctly
Sithfan
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:43:06 AM
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Doogle126 wrote:
Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.

No, because it ignores the Melee attack restriction


Does that mean you can Parry, Block, Makashi Style, or Djem-So (as long as the attacker is adjacent) it because those abilities are not mentioned in the above definition?
seibermaki
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Oy vey. GMY can throw in line of site? Like, all the way across the map?
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54:33 AM
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1. Lightsaber Throw is considered a non-Melee Attack, and should be considered as such when checking to see if there are any abilities/powers that affect it. This is covered in the FAQ.
2. Lightsaber Throw 3 has no range limitation.
Jester007
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seibermaki wrote:
Oy vey. GMY can throw in line of site? Like, all the way across the map?


Yes; and since it ignores cover for targetting (yes, the target still gets his/her defense bonus for being in cover), you can LS Throw at someone with Cloaked or Super Stealth.

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Sithfan wrote:
Doogle126 wrote:
Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.

No, because it ignores the Melee attack restriction


Does that mean you can Parry, Block, Makashi Style, or Djem-So (as long as the attacker is adjacent) it because those abilities are not mentioned in the above definition?


no because they say when hit by a melee attack you make the save, this is a non-melee attack.
seibermaki
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Jester007 wrote:
seibermaki wrote:
Oy vey. GMY can throw in line of site? Like, all the way across the map?


Yes; and since it ignores cover for targetting (yes, the target still gets his/her defense bonus for being in cover), you can LS Throw at someone with Cloaked or Super Stealth.

Sincerely,
Jester007


oh cheeze-it! uh.......... uh.... me likey long time.
Bacaras 66
Posted: Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:27:49 PM
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If he has that ataru style going for him, will the throw get the +4 atk and twin ?
swinefeld
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Bacaras 66 wrote:
If he has that ataru style going for him, will the throw get the +4 atk and twin ?


Yes. It's evil. In a Light Side kind of way Razz
Bacaras 66
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haha i thought so, so many new pieces to mess with... too many questions :D! ty mate
ecs05norway
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Thought:

Stormtrooper is within 6, is the only enemy within 6.

LS3 has Line of Sight range, ignoring cover, the same as LS5.

GMY can therefore Ataru-LS3 on Vader who is 20 squares away in cover, with the Twin Attack and +4 bonus, because of the Stormtrooper.

Ataru Style does not say that the TARGET has to be the only enemy within 6... :)
Eroschilles
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ecs05norway wrote:
Thought:

Stormtrooper is within 6, is the only enemy within 6.

LS3 has Line of Sight range, ignoring cover, the same as LS5.

GMY can therefore Ataru-LS3 on Vader who is 20 squares away in cover, with the Twin Attack and +4 bonus, because of the Stormtrooper.

Ataru Style does not say that the TARGET has to be the only enemy within 6... :)


Yup, one of the reasons GMY is great.
Jester007
Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:02:36 AM
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I'm just a little suprised that GMY doesn't have MOTF 2. But he is still good without it.

Sincerely,
Jester007
Darth O
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Sithfan wrote:
Doogle126 wrote:
Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction. This counts as a nonmelee attack for purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.

No, because it ignores the Melee attack restriction


Does that mean you can Parry, Block, Makashi Style, or Djem-So (as long as the attacker is adjacent) it because those abilities are not mentioned in the above definition?


No, b/c it says SUCH AS
Krosan
Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:28:23 PM
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ecs05norway wrote:
Thought:

Stormtrooper is within 6, is the only enemy within 6.

LS3 has Line of Sight range, ignoring cover, the same as LS5.

GMY can therefore Ataru-LS3 on Vader who is 20 squares away in cover, with the Twin Attack and +4 bonus, because of the Stormtrooper.

Ataru Style does not say that the TARGET has to be the only enemy within 6... :)


Well since it doesn't say otherwise it still follows normal targeting rules. And i would imagine the stormtrooper being closer.
EmporerDragon
Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:41:48 PM
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It follows targetting rules, but no character is considered to have cover when determining a target for Lightsaber Throw, meaning you can target anyone you can see.
twinrevans
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:43:50 AM
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joverfield wrote:

Lightsaber Throw 3
Force 3, replaces turn: Choose 1 enemy within line of sight, ignoring cover. Make an attack against the chosen enemy and against each character adjacent to that enemy


Does this mean if you have one or more of your own characters based against the target of LS Throw 3, that you have to attack your own characters, as well as the enemy characters? I understood it as making attacks was a choice, so you could elect who to and who not to attack.
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