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As of today Wizards has yet to release a Starter Set containing the Old Republic versus Sith or even the New Republic versus Yuuzhan Vong. Yet they've released multiple Rebels versus Imperials and Republic versus Separatists. While I understand the popularity of the aforementioned factions and the obvious monetary gain associated. I feel that an Old Republic based Starter Set could be profitable, as such I lay before my idea.
Reusing the Clone Wars Starter Set as a contents template (6 miniatures, stat cards, rules, battle map and 20-sided die ) and the sculpts of the Champions of the Force Jedi Guardian*, Roron Corobb**, Carth Onasi, the Old Republic Commander***, Dark Revan and HK-47 to represent the following in order.
Old Republic
Atris* (32 Points)
Hit Points: 120
Defense: 20
Attack: 10
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Melee Attack, Unique, Vaapad-Style Fighting
Force Powers: Force 4, Force Defense, Force Strike, Force Stun
Carth Onasi, Admiral (30 Points)
Hit Points: 70
Defense: 18
Attack: 9
Damage: 10
Special Abilities: Deadeye, Industrial Repair 10, Intuition, Pilot, Soldier, Twin Attack, Unique
Ithorian Revanchist** (26 Points)
Hit Points: 100
Defense: 20
Attack: 10
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Ithorian, Melee Attack, Soresu Style
Force Powers: Force 3, Force Leap, Force Valor
Trask Ulgo*** (12 Points)
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 16
Attack: 8
Damage: 10
Special Abilities: Override, Soldier, Unique
Sith
Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith (68 Points)
Hit Points: 130
Defense: 20
Attack: 15
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Dark Armor, Lightsaber Duelist, Master Tactician, Melee Attack, Double Attack, Unique
Force Powers: Force 2, Force Renewal 1, Master of the Force 2, Sith Grip, Sith Lightning 30, Sith Rage, Sith Sorcery
HK-47, Assassin Droid (32 Points)
Hit Points: 60
Defense: 18
Attack: 9
Damage: 30
Special Abilities: Droid, Jedi Hunter, Programmed Target, Sniper, Stealth, Unique
I believe that the reduced cost involved with reusing scupts, Revan's popularity, and to a lesser extant HK-47's, would be enough sell it. Surely the secondary market selling price of the current Revan can indicate thusly, especially considering the figures unplayability. There's also the added bonus of a 100 point 2 player game right out of the box.
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I think an old republic vs sith starter set would be sweet alowing both factions catch up to rebels empire etc.
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definately could use another Carth
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I agree they need to branch out a bit. I'm thinking more sets with huge characters in it. Vong vs NR would be great too since they totally missed their chance for good NR pieces with this set. Don't get me wrong, I loved JA, first time I actually bought a case, however most of the characters never even went to Luke's Jedi Academy so I was ticked. How's this:
Jaina Solo: Sword of the Jedi
New rep soldier
New Rep PILOT
Vong War Beetle (large piece)
Vong shamed one
Vong Shaper
I don't have stats for them to make up right now so knock yourselves out and get back to me, however I think it'd be great. We need new rep pilots and rep pilots cause all we have now are rebel imperial and cloud car pilots. Jag and oddball need some more friends. Jaina sword of the Jedi can include one or two mando's in her squad. Vong Shamed ones don't have the carb armor, but they have swarm and momentum. Thoughts?
Oh and that was supposed to be CRAB armor, not CARB armor. I suppose defense against fattening foods would also be good for some characters.
Jek Porkins Fat @$$
Pilot
Carb Armor (decides not to biggie size his meal)
etc etc etc
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Ya I like JA but that really made me mad, no Jaina Sword of the Jedi
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Great idea, where's the petition?!
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ChadTheBad wrote:
Old Republic
Atris* (32 Points)
Hit Points: 120
Defense: 20
Attack: 10
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Melee Attack, Unique, Vaapad-Style Fighting
Force Powers: Force 4, Force Defense, Force Strike, Force Stun
Carth Onasi, Admiral (30 Points)
Hit Points: 70
Defense: 18
Attack: 9
Damage: 10
Special Abilities: Deadeye, Industrial Repair 10, Intuition, Pilot, Soldier, Twin Attack, Unique
Ithorian Revanchist** (26 Points)
Hit Points: 100
Defense: 20
Attack: 10
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Ithorian, Melee Attack, Soresu Style
Force Powers: Force 3, Force Leap, Force Valor
Trask Ulgo*** (12 Points)
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 16
Attack: 8
Damage: 10
Special Abilities: Override, Soldier, Unique
Sith
Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith (68 Points)
Hit Points: 130
Defense: 20
Attack: 15
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Dark Armor, Lightsaber Duelist, Master Tactician, Melee Attack, Double Attack, Unique
Force Powers: Force 2, Force Renewal 1, Master of the Force 2, Sith Grip, Sith Lightning 30, Sith Rage, Sith Sorcery
HK-47, Assassin Droid (32 Points)
Hit Points: 60
Defense: 18
Attack: 9
Damage: 30
Special Abilities: Droid, Jedi Hunter, Programmed Target, Sniper, Stealth, Unique
ok i love it all except 3 things revan needs a CE. carth needs cunning or op AND NEEDS TO LOSE Industrial Repair 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and deadeye) trask didint have override it was more like doorgimic (but OR could use the cheap override so i wouldint complain) o and i would change carths name cause those dont look like the stats of an Admiral its more like back when he was a OR pilot and i would love to see this i would buy 2 immediately i would like to see a Mando vs OR or NEW AGE SITH vs NR (cades timeline) or Mando vs Sith Vong vs NR really just anything that isint the movies/tv 1000s and 1000s of years of history but they only focus on 70 years
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I wanted Revan to have a Commander Effect, but with the way the Starter is set up it'd have to work with Droids and Unique characters, howabout I give him Doctrine of Fear and -10 Hit Points instead.
Carth's built to take advantage of both the Old Republic Captain and Commander's Commander Effects while making the preestablished figure better, so while I don't care for Industrial Repair 10 he does and should have it. Cunning Attack works with Double Attack and Twin Attack making him play on the board just like he did in the video game. I could change his title from Admiral to Lieutenant though.
Trask's also meant to take advantage of the available Commander Effects, but I have no problem removing Trask's Override in exchange for +10 Damage and Door Gimmick.
Thank you for the feedback.
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If they made something along these lines, I'd buy it. I like the ideas. Keep it up Chad!
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I agree we could use more themed starters and map packs that branch out more into the EU. They don't have any huge sets planned, but if they made new huges and put them into battle packs that might work. The themed packs are definitely a good idea in my book, regardless of the stats of the figures in the set.
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Um shouldn't this be in the customs fourms?
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Uggie Demo wrote:Um shouldn't this be in the customs fourms? Maybe the customs stats do, but the main topic is creating more battle packs that focus on other factions.
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I like the idea of an Old Republic vs Sith and/or a New Republic vs Vong starter set. The stats you have for the characters seem pretty good. Only thing is, there wouldn't be that many uniques in a starter set. Usually there's one unique for each side, and then two common/uncommon soldiers/infantry for each side.
And yes, I understand it's a hypothetical starter set.
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If indeed this thread should have been started within Customs, I'm sorry and could somebody please move it accordingly.
Originally, I had planned it so Mical, reusing the Jedi Consular figure, was included instead of the Ithorian Revanchist, but I just couldn't figure him out entirely. As you can tell from the following he's definitely not worth 26 points.
Mical (26 Points)
Hit Points: 100
Defense: 20
Attack: 10
Damage: 10
Special Abilities: Heal 10, Lightsaber, Unique
Force Powers: Force 4, Force Push 2
As for the high amount of uniques featured, well that's what I was going for. The idea is to take characters from the old republic era that already have a figure that's based off of them, are popular and/or in need of a remake.
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I like the idea, but you pieces seem a little underpowered for their points (except HK)
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As I don't know the point formula I played it safe by comparing my ideas to figures of equal cost.
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NR vs Vong:
VONG:
shimrra jaamane, supreme overlord
yammosk(with booming voice)
praetorite priest
voxyn queen
NR:
jaina, SOTJ
anakin solo, (leader of the myrkr operation)
NR pilot
NR commander
i cant think of any stats, but that would be my pick of people.
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Durge Dude wrote:Ya I like JA but that really made me mad, no Jaina Sword of the Jedi I think it'd be cool if they keep doing the Map Packs. Maybe do Jaina Solo, Sword of the Jedi with one, and have a Coruscant Map on one side, and Star Destroyer Interior on the other side. The 2nd mini could be an Stormtrooper. Or perhaps release some older maps with the Map Packs. Stuff that's not easy to get/find like the Death Star map.
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Another thing I thought of... as cool as Revan the Sith looks, what if they did a Revan, Redeemed? Especially since, canonically, Revan turned good and saved the Republic from the Sith... that way you could have him, Bastila, and Carth in a squad :D
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All of those pieces are terribly overcosted seeing as they all seem to only have one attack, except for Revan, who has Double Attack for 68 points.
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