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FlyingArrow wrote:
4. TimmerB: Imperial Thrawn. Similar to (or maybe exactly) his Femme Fatale from previous years
Similar vein, but not exactly the same. --Les Femmes Fatales Redux: O.C.D. (Opportunistic Charging Domination)-- 32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) 31 Morrigan Corde 30 Mara Jade, Hand of Judgment 27 Lobot 23 Imperial Governor 16 Admiral Gilad Pellaeon 11 Admiral Ozzel 10 Droopy McCool 8 Mas Amedda 3 Mouse Droid 9 Rodian Brute x3 (200pts. 13 activations) http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/190925/EditI dropped Mira of Nar Shadda and an R7 from last year's Les Femmes Fatales Évolué for the Imperial Governor, Droopy McCool and an additional Rodian Brute. (The year before was my original Les Femmes Fatales squad. It had Emperor Palpatine on Throne instead of Mara Jade HoJ and 1 of the Rodian Brutes.)
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Lillian (Ravaged Base)
Durge on speeder
Lobot
BX Spotter
Poggle
2x Sniper
Stan Hill
BDO
2x uggies
Drones
Bryan (Ravaged Base)
Xizor
Ziro
Alexi
Dug Vigo
2x Twilek Vigo
Nautalon Vigo
Rodian Assassin
Jawa scavenger
R7
2x Klat Thugs
Rich (Outlaw City)
Luke Hero of Endor
Kyle Rebel Hero
Lando Infiltrator
Princess Leia
Jan Ors
Artoo Detoo
Rieekan
Dodonna
Juno
Obi Ghost
uggie
rodian brute
Frenchy (Outlaw City)
Kybuck
Lobot
Panaka
Blizz
Tarpals
Dr E
Flame Trooper
R2 astro
Mas
mouse
uggie
3x rodian brutes
Urbanjedi (Modular Base)
Palps
VoL
Death Trooper
Elite Scout
Bothan Sab
2x Imp Dignitary
Raxus Prime Trooper
UrbanShmi (great library)
Ven
Bastilla
Carth ORS
Klat Capt
Jaq
Shoaneb
2x uggies
XT6
Caedus (Modular Base)
Quorreal
Shedao Shai
Tsavong
Nen Yim
Khalee
Dovin Basal
Eight Cortex
Yammosk
Shamed Intendant
Timmer (Sim Deck)
Thrawn
Morrigan
Mara HoJ
Lobot
Imp Governor
Pellaeon
Ozzel
Droopster
Mas
mouse
3x rodians
Randy
Luke MOTO
Eryl
Leia Jedi
Cade PAdawan
BB8
Lor sen Taco
uggie
Deri (Bothan Spynet)
Yobuck
Panaka
Dr E
Tarpals
Blizz
Momaw
R2 Astro
R7
Flame Trooper
2x Spaarti
3x rodians
TJ (Imp Plaza)
Ven
Bastilla
Arfan Ramos
Elite Wookiee Commando
Wookiee Commander
3x Wookiee Scoundrels
R7
Prowler
uggie
2x XT6
Mike Giles (outlaw city)
Talon
Morrigan
Vornskr Alpha
vornskr
2x ravaneous Vornskr
Greedo
Bomo
Droopster
Salacious
uggie
Alex (imp plaza)
Atris
Thrawn
Mas
5x echani
3x uggie
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Count by faction:
Imperial: 3
OR: 2
Republic: 3
Separatist: 2
Rebel: 1
NR: 1
Vong: 1
Fringe: 1
Sith: 0
Mandalorian: 0
(edit to account for adamb0nd)
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Ha yes Swinefeld! Only Talon squad there and I am sure no one thought Vornskrs as I have never seen them played. I like them because they are not savage and the little ones (1) can go 8 on Talon's free move and then charge 16 for a big hit and maybe activation. It has a little of everything.
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adambond was Rep, although because he was running late to get to the event, I don't have a squad sheet for him
He was something like
Tarpals
Boba enforcer
R2 astro
Blizz
ERC Dev (the one with missiles)
Zam
some other guys I can;t remember
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AceAce wrote:Ha yes Swinefeld! Only Talon squad there and I am sure no one thought Vornskrs as I have never seen them played. I like them because they are not savage and the little ones (1) can go 8 on Talon's free move and then charge 16 for a big hit and maybe activation. It has a little of everything. Vornskrs were tough and only a missed attack by morrigan let me ease by mike in the swiss.
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Interesting notes -
4/6 of the top 6 featured at least 1 key piece that debuted in the last year (set 14 or 15) as well as 7th place.
Almost exactly 1/2 of the whole field featured one or more as well.
The squad that went undefeated in Swiss featured a squad whose latest piece came out 4 years ago
So, new stuff can compete, and old stuff still can too.
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TimmerB123 wrote:Interesting notes -
4/6 of the top 6 featured at least 1 key piece that debuted in the last year (set 14 or 15) as well as 7th place.
Almost exactly 1/2 of the whole field featured one or more as well.
The squad that went undefeated in Swiss featured a squad whose latest piece came out 4 years ago
So, new stuff can compete, and old stuff still can too. What new stuff actually had a chance though? This is starting to crack me up a bit. How many times do those squads beat daala? How many times do they beat thrawn? Those are really the only questions that matter right now. What can actually compete? I didn't see any squad that can beat daala tbh
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Agreed Daala is, has always been, and will always be an issue. Yodabuck would have had the best chance, but it still would have been tough.
As to what actually showed up -
Both OR squads were on the opposite side of the bracket from my Thrawn squad. I would really struggle against those.
TJ's OR barely lost by a hair to Jason's Imps, or else we might well be looking at an OR champion featuring 2 major new pieces (Wookiee Commander and Ven Zallow).
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TimmerB123 wrote:Agreed Daala is, has always been, and will always be an issue. Yodabuck would have had the best chance, but it still would have been tough.
As to what actually showed up -
Both OR squads were on the opposite side of the bracket from my Thrawn squad. I would really struggle against those.
TJ's OR barely lost by a hair to Jason's Imps, or else we might well be looking at an OR champion featuring 2 major new pieces (Wookiee Commander and Ven Zallow).
Nah - it wasn't that close. I had a couple bad plays that made it not-so-close. If I played those right it might have been 50/50 but he probably still had the edge even then.
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FlyingArrow wrote:TimmerB123 wrote:Agreed Daala is, has always been, and will always be an issue. Yodabuck would have had the best chance, but it still would have been tough.
As to what actually showed up -
Both OR squads were on the opposite side of the bracket from my Thrawn squad. I would really struggle against those.
TJ's OR barely lost by a hair to Jason's Imps, or else we might well be looking at an OR champion featuring 2 major new pieces (Wookiee Commander and Ven Zallow).
Nah - it wasn't that close. I had a couple bad plays that made it not-so-close. If I played those right it might have been 50/50 but he probably still had the edge even then. Regardless, the discussion is about the squad. Your squad can absolutely compete and win at the top levels.
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Yet it didn't.
People are refusing see that daala and thrawn are simply better suited for competition than any other squads right now.
There is nothing anyone had going recently that can compete as well as those two can.
This has been the norm for many many years.
These words "can compete" do not mean anything. They are empty until they are filled with actual results.
Competing at a tournament with other not highest tier squads Is not going to show you anything.
My suggestion is this:
Someone host a vassal tournament where everyone brings the absolute best squad they can to find the actual best squads.
This should be gencon but people keep bringing not highest tier stuff to "have a good time". My point is that the best stuff should be the fun stuff so let's determine the best stuff and then evaluate if it is fun. If it isn't designers or balance team should step in and fix the game.
But like I have said multiple times. Competing and actually having a chance at winning are two way different things.
When the difference between #1 and #2 is an easy 3 point win then their is a problem balance or with the tournament.
The nba a great example. The warriors easily won the national championship this year. They had a hard match up against the rockets and no one else has a chance.
This is unbalanced.
I think there should always be a top 8 in gencon help ensure that squads face off assassination the to different types of squads.
But right now if we were to all play the best of best squads their should be 3 or 4 possible squad types hitting 2 or 3 factions. The rest are meaningless.
What are leaders doing to change that is my biggest question. I firmly believe the game would be much better off when we make things powerful enough to consistently beat the current top tier. I think most people agree
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find it hard to believe that anyone still cares so much about this. 
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jak wrote:find it hard to believe that anyone still cares so much about this. You care enough to come on these boards, read the threads, and make comments. 
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TimmerB123 wrote:jak wrote:find it hard to believe that anyone still cares so much about this. You care enough to come on these boards, read the threads, and make comments. true, but I don't have a life, I'm assuming the est of you do.(maybe not?)
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