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Disintegration vs GMLS or Evade Options
chernan83
Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:23:58 PM
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Boba rolls his 20.

Luke is gone?

Right?

No saves or evades....right?

Can't do anything unless you can force Boba to reroll.....right?



Mandalore Da Beast
Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:39:21 PM
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i dont even think you can re roll a desintegration...
i never have anyway.
but you are right, no evades, no parry, no body guard, no way yer getting out of it alive.
EmporerDragon
Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:55:51 PM
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Evade, Lightsaber Deflect, etc. only negate the damage of the attack, not the effects of disintegration (unless the target was huge or larger). Force Alter would work as you don't apply effects like Disintegration or Betrayal until the die roll has been finalized.

The only way to prevent a character from being disintegrated would be to have a bodyguard take it.

Also, Avoid Defeat, Essence of Life, etc. can be used, but the character will be left with the HP stated by the ability, not what they were pre-disintegration.
billiv15
Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:57:01 AM
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Mandalore Da Beast wrote:
i dont even think you can re roll a desintegration...
i never have anyway.
but you are right, no evades, no parry, no body guard, no way yer getting out of it alive.


That's not correct.

You can use alter to force a reroll of a crit, you can also have a BG take it, it's right in the glossary definition of Disintegration.

Evade and deflect/defense only negate the damage of a crit. Disintegration is not damage. You can deflect the damage and still be defeated. In the case of a huge, disintegration is turned into +40 dmg, (so 80 in most cases, 60 vs droid). If it's a huge, you can evade/deflect it.

Reflect also partially works, in that you can still send damage back, even though you will still be defeated.

Also, molecular shielding sends the damage back, even though you are still defeated.

And finally, Bombag Gungan can help Boba disintegrate himself or his own pieces.
Mandalore Da Beast
Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:28:50 AM
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never took Bombad Gungan into consideration, cuz i dont use it. but i should.
but i was thinking for the sake of what he was naming. molecular shielding i knew about, but have yet to have been blasted back.
but you are right...
chernan83
Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:24:41 PM
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So if you use a BG they are removed from play?Huh
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:24:25 AM
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chernan83 wrote:
So if you use a BG they are removed from play?Huh


Yes, the Bodyguard can be defeated instead of the original target. This is covered in the glossary defination of Disentegration.
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