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4:00PM Championships
Details: The main event. We will play four rounds of Swiss, then cut to a top 4 if there are 12 or fewer players, a top 6 if there are 20 or fewer players, and a top 8 if there are more than 20 players. Standard format with all current V-sets, floor rules, and errata.
UPDATE: Map list will be current restricted list (see above)
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urbanjedi http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/224209/js-tatas--j's tatas-- 42 Embo 32 Talon Karrde, Information Broker 31 Mother Talzin 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 50 Nightsister Hunter x2 8 R7 Astromech Droid 10 Killik Drone x2 3 Mouse Droid (204pts. 10 activations) Starport Terminal urbanshmi http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228378/trip-to-my-lsu--Trip to my Lsu-- 60 Raskta Lsu 38 Revan, Supreme Commander 28 Shoaneb Culu, Jedi Knight 18 Wookiee Commander 11 Jedi Holocron 33 Wookiee Scoundrel x3 9 Ugnaught Demolitionist x3 3 XT-6 Droid (200pts. 12 activations) Cantina Timmerb http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/223597/whips-and-chains--s-m---Whips and Chains (S+M)-- 42 Silri 32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) 31 Mother Talzin 27 Lobot 25 Nightsister Hunter 17 Nightsister Sith Witch 15 Sith Holocron 8 Mas Amedda 3 Mouse Droid 6 Rodian Brute x2 (206pts. 11 activations) Map: Throne Room TINT http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/227825/the-darksaber--The Darksaber-- 58 Mandalore the Vindicated 56 Tarre Vizsla 28 Kelborn 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 24 Mandalorian Tactician 6 Mandalorian Demolitionist (200pts. 6 activations) Map: Outlaw City Darth O http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/224364/yobuck-ideasMy map is throne room --Milwaukee Bucks-- 51 Yoda on Kybuck 23 Captain Panaka 20 Captain Tarpals 19 Ewok With Catapult 16 Dr. Evazan, Galactic Criminal 16 Qui-Gon Jinn, Force Spirit 15 Momaw Nadon 13 Coruscant Underworld Police Officer 10 Droopy McCool 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 8 Mas Amedda (200pts. 11 activations) dark dracul --Jabba Momma-- 43 Jabba Desilijic Tiure 33 Asajj Ventress, Nightsister 31 Mother Talzin 46 Nightsister Hunter x2 19 Talia, Nightsister Hunter 17 Ortugg, Gamorrean Leader 8 R7 Astromech Droid 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (200pts. 9 activations) Map: Starport Terminal http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228692/jabba-mommaRandy http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228330/darkness-on-malachor-v--Darkness on Malachor V-- 50 Darth Nihilus, Lord of Hunger 32 Darth Sion, Lord of Pain 38 Darth Traya, Lord of Betrayal 40 Sith Assasin of Malachor V 18 Dark Force Nexus 17 Vongerella, Dark Jedi 5 Porg (200pts. 7 activations) Mao: Rhen Var Citadel caedus http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228637/shanstarport terminal Shan-- 46 Ven Zallow, Jedi Master 33 Bastila Shan, Jedi Master 29 Satele Shan, Hero of Alderaan 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 23 Dowutin Soldier 18 Arca Jeth, Jedi Spirit 11 Teethree (T3-M4) 10 Squib Trader 2 Kneesaa, Ewok Princess (200pts. 9 activations) Aceace http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/176438/i-meant-mean--remix-addition--I Meant Mean: Remix Addition-- 85 Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker 65 Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side 13 Chagrian Mercenary Commander 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 8 Mas Amedda 8 R7 Astromech Droid 5 Porg 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2 (199pts. 9 activations) Bothan Spynet Kez http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/204229/yoda-man--Yo'da Man-- 100 Yoda, Hero of Geonosis 20 Captain Tarpals 16 Qui-Gon Jinn, Force Spirit 15 Lobot, Computer Liaison Officer 33 Clone Trooper with Flamethrower x3 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 4 Loth-cat 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (200pts. 10 activations) Starport district Darth Jim http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228478/sensibilities --Sensibilities-- 62 Boba Fett, Bounty Hunter 34 Guildmaster Cradossk 29 Ganner Rhysode 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 20 Danni Quee 10 Luke Skywalker, Force Spirit 8 R7 Astromech Droid 5 Porg 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (199pts. 9 activations) My map is Starport Terminal Mando http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/224387/embolical-corde--hutt-cartel-edition---Embolical Corde (Hutt Cartel edition)-- 35 Jabba Desilijic Tiure 42 Embo 31 Morrigan Corde 28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa 20 Bib Fortuna, Majordomo 18 Devaronian Assassin 12 Rodian Assassin 8 R7 Astromech Droid 3 Mouse Droid 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (200pts. 10 activations) map: Starport Terminal Flying arrow http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228627/dance-of-death-uberforceMap: Rhen Var --Dance of Death Uberforce-- 54 Darth Caedus, Sith Lord 31 Barriss Offee, Rogue Jedi 25 Barada on Desert Skiff 18 Dark Force Nexus 17 Vongerella, Dark Jedi 16-3 Vision in the Cave 15-3 Sith Holocron 14 Exar Kun, Dark Force Spirit 6 Sith Ordnance Specialist 4 Loth-cat 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist 3 XT-6 Droid (200pts. 12 activations) GregH http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228678/men-in-black--Men in black-- 100 Darth Sidious, Sith Mastermind 50 Boba Fett, Assassin for Hire 45 Darth Vader of Lothal 5 Porg 9 Ugnaught Demolitionist x3 (209pts. 7 activations) Rhen Var Angus http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/218972/chewie38 Chewie 32 Talon Karrde, Information Broker 25 Dryden Vos, Crimson Dawn Leader 24 Young Han Solo 18 Klatooinian Captain 17 Qi'ra 14 Maul, Hologram 14 Rio Durant 8 R7 Astromech Droid 3 Mouse Droid 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2 spry http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228665/the-talondorian67 Mandalorian 54 Montross 32 Talon 28 Mira 8 R7 5 Porg 6 Uggie x2 Map: Cantina
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rd 1
flying arrow vs jedi jedi 3-0
darth o vs kez darth o 3-0
greg vs mando mando 3-0
dracul vs randy dracul 3-0
tint vs shawn tint 3-0
aceace vs angus aceace 3-0
darthjim vs timmer timmer 3-0
shmi vs spry spry 3-0
rd 2
jedi vs mando mando 3-1
aceace vs darth o darth 0 3-1
timmer vs spry spry 3-1
tint vs dracul tint 3-1
angus vs darth jim angus3-0
shmi vs flying arrow flying 3-0
randy vs greg greg 3-1
kez vs caedus caedus 2-1
rd 3
mando vs tint mando 3-0
darth o vs spry spry 3-0
giles vs dracul dracul 3-0
jedi vs timmer jedi 3-0
angus vs greg greg 3-0
flying arrow vs caedus flying arrow 3-0
randy vs kez randy 3-0
shmi vs darth jim shmi 3-1
rd 4
spry vs mando spry 3-0
jedi vs dracul dracul 3-1
greg vs darth o greg 3-0
tint vs flying arrow tint 3-1
randy vs timmer timmer 3-1
giles vs shmi aceace 3-0
angus vs caedus angus 3-0
jim -- bye
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standings after rd 3
mando 9
spry 9
jedi 7
dracul 7
tint 6
greg 6
darth o 6
flying arrow 6
timmer 4
giles 4
randy 4
shmi 3
angus 3
caudes 2
kez 1
jim 1
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standings after rd 4
spry 12
dracul 10
mando 9
tint 9
greg 9
jedi 8
giles 7
timmer 7
flying arrow 7
darth 0 6
angus 6
randy 5
jim 4
shmi 3
caedus 2
kez1
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playoffs
1 spry vs bye
4 tint vs 5 greg tint wins
2 dracul vs bye
3 mando vs 6 jedi mando wins
semis
spry vs tint tint wins
dracul vs mando
finals
tint vs Dracul
Dracul wins!!!
Dracul wins!!!
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and Bryan/DarkDracul beats Trevor/thereisnotry in the final 148-139!! super close game, massive congrats to Bryan for his world championship win
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Awsomeness DD!! Congratulations.
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DD!!! Congratulations!!
I wish I could have been there. Everything in place for me to join you all, but something happened.
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Congrats, DarkDracul!
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Great win DarkDracul! congrats on being our new champion! haveing played against your team in the semi-finals i saw first hand how difficult it was to do well against. was a very close game and that was one of the most fun matchups i've had! you built a top notch squad and it didn't need Bib fortuna to make the HC squad do well.
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Congrats DD!!
Mother Talzin is one of my favorite characters in the show and seems so powerful. Even crossing blades with Mace for a second.
Mandos and maybe a talzin squad. Sorry the meta isn't open, it would be better if peeps speed thinking it was.
Yep.
New Republic and Old Republic are 100% out of anyone's radar. What people have done to the OR is maddening.
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It is kind of difficult to post because I am a newcomer and don't know the procedures and I am definitely keeping hush hush about any names. Maybe they don't know either or maybe it is not a problem at all. So risking embarrassment I want to know if I should count on the person I am practicing with to keep my squad secret or should I count myself "risking it" when I practice for a big event
I tried really hard to get prepared for the Championship and felt prepared. I am really sad I missed it. I had a ton of fun on Thursday even though I werent prepared for that at all. My question is when you practice with someone, what is the protocol for keeping other squads under wraps? I saw at least 2 perfect copies of squads that were used in practice against me that were used by other people in the tournament. I definitely thought about those squads after playing them to try to counter them if I were to play against that squad. We all knew about the tarre vizsla/ vindicated squad so I am not counting that in this post. It seems a little unsportsmanlike to do that with someone you know is planning on playing in the tournament. I don't want to rustle any feathers I just want to know what to expect going forward. I know that I do not want my squad used in other practices against other opponents. I practiced with 5 different people and i now know who I will practice with in the future from those 5 anyway.
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U ... keep in mind that no one squad is anyone's 'patented' squad. I get you want to keep the squad you are wanting to play a secret, but sometimes other people have duplicates of your squad. There's only so many variations of the 'good' squads. Expect to see mirrors/copies.
Claiming a particular squad as 'your' design only leads to trouble. Play the game to have fun!
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imyurhukaberry wrote:U ... keep in mind that no one squad is anyone's 'patented' squad. I get you want to keep the squad you are wanting to play a secret, but sometimes other people have duplicates of your squad. There's only so many variations of the 'good' squads. Expect to see mirrors/copies.
Claiming a particular squad as 'your' design only leads to trouble. Play the game to have fun! Of course that is the case, especially for the different talon and jabba and mando variants that everyone knows about. if you play that type of squad you do so knowing that others know about it. However, the squads I made mention of are not of that type. If that is the general consensus then I will just pick more closely who to share information with.
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Udorian84 wrote:imyurhukaberry wrote:U ... keep in mind that no one squad is anyone's 'patented' squad. I get you want to keep the squad you are wanting to play a secret, but sometimes other people have duplicates of your squad. There's only so many variations of the 'good' squads. Expect to see mirrors/copies.
Claiming a particular squad as 'your' design only leads to trouble. Play the game to have fun! Of course that is the case, especially for the different talon and jabba and mando variants that everyone knows about. if you play that type of squad you do so knowing that others know about it. However, the squads I made mention of are not of that type. If that is the general consensus then I will just pick more closely who to share information with. Selling out of squads is definitely part of the game. There are some sly players out there that will do anything to get ahead. I can only think of 2 left to be honest. Most people know who they are. The type that serve themselves. It goes as far as balance committee and design as well. It is definitely unsportsmanlike and should be frowned upon. There are, however, no rules against it. When you sit down to practice do so knowing that that individual will make reference to your squad in some sort of way. I would clarify with whoever you are testing with that they will not reveal your squad to others and that you will do the same. A little verbal contract if you will. You are definitely smart to be very choosy with your squad and who you choose to reveal it to.
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Udorian84 wrote:It is kind of difficult to post because I am a newcomer and don't know the procedures and I am definitely keeping hush hush about any names. Maybe they don't know either or maybe it is not a problem at all. So risking embarrassment I want to know if I should count on the person I am practicing with to keep my squad secret or should I count myself "risking it" when I practice for a big event
I tried really hard to get prepared for the Championship and felt prepared. I am really sad I missed it. I had a ton of fun on Thursday even though I werent prepared for that at all. My question is when you practice with someone, what is the protocol for keeping other squads under wraps? I saw at least 2 perfect copies of squads that were used in practice against me that were used by other people in the tournament. I definitely thought about those squads after playing them to try to counter them if I were to play against that squad. We all knew about the tarre vizsla/ vindicated squad so I am not counting that in this post. It seems a little unsportsmanlike to do that with someone you know is planning on playing in the tournament. I don't want to rustle any feathers I just want to know what to expect going forward. I know that I do not want my squad used in other practices against other opponents. I practiced with 5 different people and i now know who I will practice with in the future from those 5 anyway. Not sure which squads you are referring to as being revealed, but there are only 16 squads so I can do a quick rundown. There weren't many surprises in there. Talzin is a known power piece and was expected to be present in this tournament. We saw her in combination with Talon (urbanjedi), Jabba DT (DarkDracul), and Thrawn (TimmerB). No surprises there. UrbanShmi ran Raskta + Wookiee Commander. Wookiee Commander squads aren't new, but Raskta is brand new with Set 21. thereisnotry has been running low-activation Mandalorian squads for a long time. I couldn't have guessed the exact variation, but I would have guessed low-act Mandos for him. No surprise there. Darth O ran Yobuck/Tarpals/Panaka. It's a variation of a squad I know best as "Yoda's Friends Throw Their Toys". Etienne (atmsalad/DarthFrenchy) finished first in Swiss using a similar squad about 3 years ago. Randy ran the Triumvirate. He's had success with it in the past. If I had to guess what he'd play, I probably wouldn't have guessed Triumvirate, but it would've been one of my first 3 guesses for him. Not really a surprise. Caedus has been one of our most consistent Vong players. (The other, juice_man, stopped playing a few years ago.) It looked like Jabba DT was going to dominate the meta, and he did. I'm guess that since Jabba relies more on CEs than Force powers, he went with Bastila over Vong. Bastila has been a power 11 piece since Vset 1, so it's never really a surprise to see her. AceAce had Obi-Ani and Mace Legacy. More than one person had mentioned Obi-Ani as an option for this meta. Kez's squad was probably the biggest surprise to me. Yoda Hero of Genesis had a broken Reserves combination before the floor rules update that prevented stacking Reserves on the same initiative roll. I don't think I've seen him since. DarthJim's was another squad that surprised me. I haven't seen Cradossk paired with NR before. Mando has a novel combination of attackers for a JabbaDT squad, but a JabbaDT-Bib squad just won New Zealand, so it isn't surprising to see one here, too. I ran a Dance of Death squad, to no one's surprise. It's my 5th time running some version of Caedus in the championships (3 times with Mines and twice with Warb Null). It's a squad that will surprise someone if they haven't seen it before and don't know what I'm trying to do, but I've been trying it for 7 years. So no surprise there. Greg ran Sidious/Vader of Lothal, a popular combination that urbanjedi took to the finals a couple years ago. Fitting Boba in that squad was something I don't remember seeing before, though. Angus's squad wasn't something I expected. Talon is very common, but I haven't seen much of Dryden Vos/Mercenaries. Spry ran The Talondorian in the team tournament, so it wasn't a surprise. The squads of UrbanShmi, Kez, DarthJim, and Angus are the only ones that I'd consider a surprise. If it was any of the others, then it just means that whoever ran them against you was paying attention.
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FlyingArrow wrote:There weren't many surprises in there.
We have a difference of opinion. My opinion is that squad types (Jabba/Bib for example) can be very very diverse. Each with its own merits. I practiced against myself quite a bit to see who would be brought Tarre Vizsla or Jango Fett. I couldn't figure it out, but I do know that the 2 squads can play very very differently with the switch of but 1 character. The supporting cast are the surprises that should not be given away.
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Udorian84 wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:There weren't many surprises in there.
We have a difference of opinion. My opinion is that squad types (Jabba/Bib for example) can be very very diverse. Each with its own merits. I practiced against myself quite a bit to see who would be brought Tarre Vizsla or Jango Fett. I couldn't figure it out, but I do know that the 2 squads can play very very differently with the switch of but 1 character. The supporting cast are the surprises that should not be given away. Still not sure which squads or person you're talking about, but in terms of spry and tint's Mandalorian squads (if one of those squads is what you're talking about), those exact squads had already been run in the previous days/months. They both seem like players who wouldn't reveal their planned squads for the championship, so if you saw someone else playing them it was probably just a matter of them picking up an existing squad from a good player - no necessarily a matter of someone revealing a secret. Or, for that matter, maybe coincidentally re-creating it. When you're talking about a 6-character squad there are only so many combinations. Someone exactly created my 9-activation Resistance squad that I ran in the Team Tournament: http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/228599/numb-sneezy-bowcasters--2021-vassalcon-team-tournament-It's private so I don't know who did it, but we both stumbled on exactly the same combination. In any case, I think we can agree that secrets should be kept.
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jen'ari wrote:I would clarify with whoever you are testing with that they will not reveal your squad to others and that you will do the same. A little verbal contract if you will. You are definitely smart to be very choosy with your squad and who you choose to reveal it to. Udor...backing up...I didn't fully understand what you were implying...or rather...stating. As with any other competition, there will be those that try to exploit angles...as someone else just mentioned. Sad but true.  Follow the advice above from J and from others in this thread and just be smart/sly about how and when you reveal your squads...especially for playtesting. For me...it was sort of fun to reveal a "unique" squad and see my opponent's face. Actually, it got to be a thing for all the players to gather around and see what I would play. Not that they were always great squads, but I held my own...back in the day.  Maybe in the near future I'll but up for some of that testing. It's been far too long for me... 
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