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adminsidious
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:14:47 AM
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Either I couldn't get the search to work right, or I couldn't find an answer rolling back for several pages.

I'm pretty new to gambit scoring, and just need some basic clarification, apologies in advance if it's basic material for alot of you. :)

When it says "Ignore low objects and walls" does that essentially mean "Treat them as open terrain"?

To give an example (if only to contextualize it for myself) the Rancor pen, where the bulk of the Gambit area is wall, would be traversable as normal terrain?

Uggie Demo
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:21:23 AM
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You can't move through the walls that are in gambit if thats what your asking, you count 4 squares out from the gambit point, it counts through walls and difficult terrian as regular squares.
adminsidious
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:28:32 AM
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I rarely say this, but there's something about this I don't get, or feel like i'm missing, and I can't seem to put it together without a visual clue. (Totally my fault.)

Are they treated as regular for the purposes of counting from the center?

Maybe another question will help.

I count 14 squares on the Rancor map that aren't in the wall zone.

Those 14 squares are the only ones you can score gambit points on?(because you can't step onto the ones full of wall?)
MAINEiac
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:15:22 AM
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no, when you are counting out 4 sqaures to see where the gambit ends , DONT count terrain. (and dont stop at a wall)
But you do count diagonals as 2 squares
Hope this helps,
MAINEiac
adminsidious
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:30:14 AM
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MAINEiac wrote:
no, when you are counting out 4 sqaures to see where the gambit ends , DONT count terrain. (and dont stop at a wall)
But you do count diagonals as 2 squares
Hope this helps,
MAINEiac


But just for counting to figure out where gambit is? When playing, the gambit zone can be walled off in part? Or?


Sorry, I feel like i"m being really obtuse, here, I just can't wrap my head around it, particularly with that rankor map.

Looking at Fingerandteeth's example on the Holocron, it seems like he gambit area takes up the standard center 24 squares. But on the rancor map, 10 of these squares seem totally inaccesable when the template from Holocron is applied.

If I'm reading it right, they do remain unreachable, even though they are in the gambit zone. Or do I end up with a big wierd template of gambit outside of the normal

xx
xxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxx
xx

pattern.

I'm actually making all of my tournament maps with sharpie today for their gambit zones, lol, thought it would easier long term.

*edited
Draconarius
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:08:11 PM
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It's 4 squares from the center regardless of terrain, which means that yes, some maps will have sections that are walled off or completely inaccessable (Rancor Pit is probably the worst).
headache62
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:16:20 PM
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The area in the red outline is the Gambit zone - you cannot stand inside the wall, but if you have a character within that area then you can score gambit points.

You count 4 squares from the center ignoring terrain/etc.
adminsidious
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:30:39 PM
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Thanks everyone1 Particularly Draconarius.

The Rancor example seemed like the perfect baseline!

Sorry again for the ignorance on my part. Blushing
trick624
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:18:20 PM
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don't be embarassed, i've never played gambit, but only heard of it, so this helped me as well!
Mandalore Da Beast
Posted: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:51:47 AM
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i just started playing Gambit, and am still confused (my fault).
Ok, the example above shows the zone 3 squares tall (from the center), and 3 squares wide. so if i am in a square adjacent to the zone, im still scoring Gambit points?
when i play Gambit, i use one giant square thats 8 squares tall, and 8 squares wide (divided from the center mind you.) thats how i learned how to play on vassal.
im sorry for the repeat of the question, im just making sure i have all bases covered for an upcoming tournament. i dont want any surprises.....
Volvagia14
Posted: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:05:36 AM
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Well on most maps the center is not on a square, it is in between 4 different squares. So the first square you count from gambit is diagonal from the center, thus counting as 2 squares. Hope this clears it up.
Mandalore Da Beast
Posted: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:24:53 AM
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Volvagia14 wrote:
Well on most maps the center is not on a square, it is in between 4 different squares. So the first square you count from gambit is diagonal from the center, thus counting as 2 squares. Hope this clears it up.

i meant centered between 4 squares, my bad.
it makes sense after looking at it again.
seibermaki
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:34:47 AM
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I love that map. gambit and lead them into ambush ;)
klecser
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swinefeld
Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:52:05 AM
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I had not seen that article before. That is excellent Klecser - well done!

And thanks BlooMilk
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