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            I know this has been asked before but I couldn't find the answer.
 Can the noble get opportunist from the likes of Thrawn, or cunning from Jabba?
 
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            Yes.
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            Thanks,
 So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?
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            DarthJoe8 wrote:Thanks,
 So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?
 Droids    Basically due to the Mouse droid (who can get a boosted Attack from the BDO) all SA's or CE's that grant damage to Droid have specifically stated they must have a base damage greater than 0.
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            The Celestial Warrior wrote:DarthJoe8 wrote:Thanks,
 So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this?
 Droids    Basically due to the Mouse droid (who can get a boosted Attack from the BDO) all SA's or CE's that grant damage to Droid have specifically stated they must have a base damage greater than 0. Unless I missed something, Advanced Battle Meditation will grant damage to a Mouse Droid.
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            I noticed this also. It's not a CE so it should work.
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            DarthJoe8 wrote:I noticed this also. It's not a CE so it should work. Hmm, yes it will.  But since you will never see a droid affecting CE in the OR or Fringe...not going to get much from it.
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            Maybe not but it would be cool for my mouse to put the smack down on an uggie.    | 
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            ABM does not work with mice.  See the Bastilla, JM thread.
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            I see. Thanks. I guess it wouldn't work with the noble either...??
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            DarthJoe8 wrote:So a character who has no attack or damage can get boosted by another figure. Or are there exceptions to this? As others have correctly noted, yes, they can get boosted. But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
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            Chargers wrote:
 But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
 
 Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire.
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            EmporerDragon wrote:Chargers wrote:
 But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
 
 Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire. imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'. I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0. Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb.    | 
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            I agree with you LBPB, but characters that are unable to attack (technically) should have a - (dash) through Attack and Damage, instead of a 0 (zero), as SOME characters do.  Why some do and some do not was probably just design oversight that we have to deal with, unless a list is published of characters that are never able to Attack.
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            LBPB wrote:EmporerDragon wrote:Chargers wrote:
 But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
 
 Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire. imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'. I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0. Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb.    I think you mean Damage 0.  Battle Droids also have Attack 0.
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            LBPB wrote:EmporerDragon wrote:Chargers wrote:
 But a limitation of 0 damage and 0 attack figures is that they cannot combine fire without other figures.
 
 Unless they get a non-conditional boost to their damage stat (i.e. Stormtrooper Commander). If they get that, they can combine fire. imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'. I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0. Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb.    This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system.
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            FlyingArrow wrote:LBPB wrote:imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'. I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0. Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb.    I think you mean Damage 0.  Battle Droids also have Attack 0. oooops.. you're right    Sithborg wrote:This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system. I agree in overall, but a little errata won't hurt on this particular aspect. Listing the characters who can't attack at all, is not a such huge task, and this will prevent players to use the biggest cheat of the game...
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            LBPB wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:LBPB wrote:imho, this is bypassing the rules and all 'realism'. I never grant any boost to a Character with Attack 0. Seriously, a mouse droid attacking is just... dumb.    I think you mean Damage 0.  Battle Droids also have Attack 0. oooops.. you're right    Sithborg wrote:This is how the rules work, as intended from all the way back in ROTS (please see R2-D2, Astromech Droid, with an Atk rating, but a printed damage rating of 0). "Realism" has always been a tricky thing in this game. The rules do their best, but there are oddities that must be accepted for a streamlined rules system. I agree in overall, but a little errata won't hurt on this particular aspect. Listing the characters who can't attack at all, is not a such huge task, and this will prevent players to use the biggest cheat of the game... i wouldnt call it the biggest cheat of the game. i mean a mouse droid getting 24 defense without cover is pretty broken for a 3 point piece or 2 with lobot. i would personally call dodanna the games biggest cheat. because i have never been too worried about a 10 damage attack from a cammassi that cant crit you.
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