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Ok my question is a fairly simple one, but one that i dont think has ever been asked.
When hit by an ability that allows for a save of # to prevent the ability do you have to roll the save or can you decline the roll and chose to take the effects of the ability?
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You must make the saves. They aren't optional. Someone asked this once on Wizards, and I'm pretty sure that's what the answer was.
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Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:You must make the saves. They aren't optional. Someone asked this once on Wizards, and I'm pretty sure that's what the answer was. _NickName_ wrote:The save would need to be rolled, as the result of 1 is meaningful even if the success or failure is otherwise meaningless. Saves are not optional even when they are completely meaningless. http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/19462906/Mandatory_Roll&post_num=13#331126278
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as far as i know, you only have the option to NOT make AoOs.
as far as saves, they are not optional.
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Ok, that all makes sense. Just checking.
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A trick you can use is, if an ability comes along to where you really dont wanna roll the save but as stated above you have to, & you have a force user with fp's. Say you wanna fail the save when you roll it if you pass the save then spend a force point to reroll it again this way it gives you a better chance of failing the save. Just because you have to roll a save & just because you make the save doesnt mean you cant spend a force point to reroll it.
Same goes with attacking, lets say you have Boba BH & he has fp's from sidholo. & boba bh is down to 20 hp & your opponent has lets say Dash RS & they are both adjacent & dash has full HP. You win initiative & you know you only have 1 turn before dash kills you, you make your first roll & its a hit for 20 dam on dash, now you know your second one has to be a crit so that you can disenergrate dash but when you roll, you roll an 18 instead, the attack hits but you would have the option to spend a force point even though the attack hit to reroll to try for a 20..
So basically you must roll saves they are not optional. But you a trick is if you have force points when you wanna fail a save or get a crit when you need it, even though you make the save or even though the attack hits, you can spend force points to reroll it. Just a little tip
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Darth Percocet wrote:A trick you can use is, if an ability comes along to where you really dont wanna roll the save but as stated above you have to, & you have a force user with fp's. Say you wanna fail the save when you roll it if you pass the save then spend a force point to reroll it again this way it gives you a better chance of failing the save. Just because you have to roll a save & just because you make the save doesnt mean you cant spend a force point to reroll it.
Same goes with attacking, lets say you have Boba BH & he has fp's from sidholo. & boba bh is down to 20 hp & your opponent has lets say Dash RS & they are both adjacent & dash has full HP. You win initiative & you know you only have 1 turn before dash kills you, you make your first roll & its a hit for 20 dam on dash, now you know your second one has to be a crit so that you can disenergrate dash but when you roll, you roll an 18 instead, the attack hits but you would have the option to spend a force point even though the attack hit to reroll to try for a 20..
So basically you must roll saves they are not optional. But you a trick is if you have force points when you wanna fail a save or get a crit when you need it, even though you make the save or even though the attack hits, you can spend force points to reroll it. Just a little tip then you re-roll, and ROLL A 20!!!!! disintegrated dash!!! see you later!! *crowd goes nuts..* *applause* *stands up to thank the crowd for coming* *calls jared to ask for subway menus, but gets an answer saying subways a fast food place... menus are right in front of your face...* i love rambling on about nothing...
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