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Hit Points: 120
Defense: 20
Attack: 12
Damage: 20
Rarity: Rare
Base: Medium
Gender: Male
Creator: General_Grievous
Created: 3/7/2018
Updated: 3/10/2018

Special Abilities

  • Unique
  • Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
  • Extra Attack (On his turn, this character can make 1 cumulative extra attack instead of moving)
  • Greater Mobile Attack (Can move both before and after attacking. This character can make extra attacks even if he moves this turn, but he must make them all before resuming movement.)
  • Independent Outfit (Also counts as a Fringe character for the purpose of commander effects)
  • Place Bounty (After setup, choose any 1 enemy. Unique allied Characters with Bounty Hunter get +4 Attack and Twin attack against the chosen enemy until the end of the skirmish.)

Force Powers

  • Force 3
  • Force Renewal 1 (This character gets 1 Force point each time he activates)
  • Force Vision (Force 2, replaces attacks: sight; 1 ally with a lower point cost may make an immediate attack)
  • Door Shatter 1 (Force 1, replaces attacks: range 6; Designate 1 door as open; it remains open for the rest of the skirmish and cannot be closed)

Commander Effect

Droids are subject to this effect; Allies named Boba Fett, IG-88, Bossk, Dengar, 4-LOM or Zuckuss gain Extra Attack and Greater Mobile Attack.

"Bounty Hunters! We don't need that scum." -Imperial Officer

Average Rating: 10.00 (1)
Creator's Rating: 10/10
General_Grievous
3/7/2018 11:08:51 PM

Costed it at 38 so you could fit in exactly all 6 named bounty hunters from the CE with him and still be able to use Vision on all of them but Fett
Lord_Ball
3/8/2018 12:56:11 AM

I know it's part of the ccc this week, but Independent Outfit feels wierd on a Vader. And Extra Attack as an ability, any specific reason not double instead?
General_Grievous
3/8/2018 2:33:36 AM

Just for clarification for his CE, to have it spelled out. And originally I didn't have IO on there but it's the rules so I'll have to fudge it. Technically none of the imperials wanted to work with the bounty hunters and so in a sense he had his own independent outfit
swinefeld
3/8/2018 5:34:00 PM

Clever idea here. :)
General_Grievous
3/8/2018 7:14:31 PM

Thanks Swine, I wasn't sure what to do for this week since I'm not a huge fringe guy, then I remembered the original bounty hunters scene that stated it all and the original RS versions which are some of the lowest rated uniques out there today and whipped this up. Haha
surf_rider56
3/9/2018 3:18:06 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 4:10:50 PM)

... agree with LB. IO seems a lil weird for Vader; seriously doubt CHS was thinking "Vader" when he made the rule about anything non-fringe had to have it ... what happened to "No Disintegrations!" ... costed a lil low but nothing ridiculous ... doesn't feel like a Vader, but an interesting take ... whats with Door Shatter? Seems out of place, but then, so's the whole piece .....
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 3:50:02 PM

Hahahaha thanks for the critique Surf. This guy originally had no disintegrations instead of independent outfit but has to keep the number of abilities/powers in check. And the door shatter is partially representing on Bespin when the door suddenly opens and I'm sure Vader held it open too haha. But gameplay-wise it allows a team of the original 6 hunters and Vader to have a door control option as the original set didn't have any door control. This piece to me is the Imperial Version of Dooku Separatist leader, a totally different but still thematic Vader
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 3:54:23 PM

But I agree it's out there and not what one would typically see on a Vader. But man you can only do dark armor and grip so many times before you got to stretch or break the mold entirely. I mean we did get a Sith Vader. I would love to see a piece like this that helps out the original RS pieces and brings them up to current power curve same as Yaddle did for CS jedi. But also would be neat to see different Vader's like: Pilot, Fleet Commander, in Bacta Tank (versatility-style piece), Inquisator, Master (boost for Vader's Apprentice).
juice man
3/9/2018 4:26:23 PM

I like Independent Outfit. Represents him going outside the norm. The flavor quote says it all.
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 5:28:06 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 5:28:53 PM)

Thanks Juice! And Vader was always big into Bounty Hunters, basically had Fett on retainer haha. While most other Imperials preferred their own agents
AlexTheGreat
3/9/2018 7:39:37 PM

I never thought there would exist a Vader less than 50 points. But then I saw this one. I was really confused at first but I reconsidered it and I can say that is perfect. Very clever, well done!
jen'ari
3/9/2018 7:50:23 PM

I can't get behind an imperial Vader that falls under fringe commander effects or granting extra and gma. They are two to tier abilities. So are twin and +4 +10. Both are situational and limited but still can you imagine playing against Darth bane sith'ari? He will die so fast
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 8:27:23 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 8:31:27 PM)

But to do that Jen you are only granting it to the garbage barrel of pieces, you have to bring the 5 bounty hunters from the original Rebel Storm (+Zuckuss) some of, if not the most awful unique shooters in the game. I'm talking attacks of base 8, 0 defensive abilities or really abilities at all, 50 hitpoints average and just so... so... man they are terrible hahaha. Would Bane die any faster than if Boba, Cad, and Morrigan paired up with Talon are shooting at him? If you bring Bane you have to bring some protection for him
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 8:30:57 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 8:37:00 PM)

Any shooter eats Bane alive, echanis, ranged swarm from any faction, Han, Chewie, Rogue One, Ghost Crew, Dash, Deathtroopers, I could go on... and these guys would be attacking at lower, only one has accurate (Boba) so they can't go around Fodder walls, all of their shots can be stopped by illusion/defense/bodyguard/ABM/disruption unlike many of the other shooters. Plus if you use Bounty on Bane then the rest of the squad just becomes a bunch of Doubling GMAs against whatever else you brought for 137 points. But if you guys think it's too strong I could potentially drop the attack or damage.
jen'ari
3/9/2018 9:52:05 PM

I don't know if it is too powerful. I mean the power creep from those pieces is massive. It is just that it changes then so much they are not themselves. It is not like Vader did anything for them other than offer a reward.
jen'ari
3/9/2018 9:52:22 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 9:54:37 PM)

It adds 5 attacks is the point. All at +10 damage
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 10:08:44 PM (Updated: 3/9/2018 10:09:54 PM)

Technically 4 but only on one character, something that would be useless on most squads as either you can't hit their commander/key piece or they do and then the rest of the enemy squad destroys these super fragile glass cannons that become basically half Dash Renders at two times the cost once their target is dead. And that's why his ability post bounty is so motivating to the bounty hunters. The CE moreso reflects him choosing those six specifically and thus motivating them to be better since Vader chose them haha. Anyways would dropping the +10 damage make you happy brother?
General_Grievous
3/9/2018 10:09:08 PM

And thanks Alex!
shmi15
3/9/2018 11:35:25 PM

does "Counts as" count the same as "named". I get why you costed this guy as cheap as you did, because you wanted to play all 6 BH. BUT.. This guy is better without them than with them. I would rather take this guy and Thrawn, then this guy and 6 bad BH. I don't know if this guy can get Extra Attack, since he already has Extra attack, but either way, I think he needs to be tweeked to work only with the BH
jen'ari
3/10/2018 1:37:45 AM

I was thinking 5 because the single attack gets a twin, so that's one, than extra twin is 4. I get what you are doing and trying to do is make crappy pieces playable. But I just can't really get behind the massive amounts of extra that are required
jen'ari
3/10/2018 1:38:41 AM

Pieces like yaddle and even corellian Han that grant so much stuff are not very welcome in my opinion. That is just personal though.
General_Grievous
3/10/2018 1:51:37 AM

Shmi you would take this guy over paying 7 more points to get the vastly superior Lothal? Extra twin + their original and twin is grand total of 4, or 6 for Boba/IG. And that's only against one character, otherwise they are basically overpriced Echanis hahaha. And I hear you Jen but I think that's just design difference. I love what Yaddle did for the obselete CS jedi. I do agree that giving only a couple things is better though for simplicity's sake. I'll mediate and maybe drop one part of bounty or the CE. As well as drop stats to make Shmi not want to play him anymore hahaha
General_Grievous
3/10/2018 2:20:30 AM (Updated: 3/10/2018 2:26:33 AM)

Trimmed stats slightly and dropped the +10 damage portion of Place bounty. Twin helps out all bounty hunters but doesn't boost up the already deadly Cad Bane, Fett AFH, Morrigan or Mira. Also all BHs can already get twin from Loathsom. And I really believe that the old RS bounty hunters truly need both GMA and extra to even be playable. And with the potential for twin on one enemy it allows a slight reason you may take RS Boba over AFH. And also Shmi I believe the way I worded it "named" means that it must be exact name and not counts as.
swinefeld
3/10/2018 2:26:25 AM

Where is this idea of 'Twin' coming from? lol There is no Twin involved here at all that I can see. Extra stacks, but the only way you add on another Extra is with GM Tarkin and he would only affect Vader (and Mi'Thrawn if he were in there as well). So maybe Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin, a couple of the BHs (Boba is *50*) and then Mas/swap fodder. Meh... Better question is, what can you do with Talon?
General_Grievous
3/10/2018 2:30:53 AM (Updated: 3/10/2018 2:31:39 AM)

He gives out Twin and +4 attack as part of Place Bounty. But can't get it himself. And not too worried about Talon boosting Vader. +17 and 30 GMA melee x2 attacks with 0 defensive abilities isn't exactly going to break the bank of raw power. Different for sure and could reflect Vader's more fringe like solo excursions apart from the usual imperial forces but 60 damage melee for 38 points.... I would rather take shooters that can do the same or more at ranged for less.
swinefeld
3/10/2018 2:57:23 AM

How the heck did I overlook that? I was all wrapped up in the Extra stuff. Gah! I'm gonna go rethink my life for a bit. ;D
General_Grievous
3/10/2018 3:18:34 AM

Hahaha just don't do Deathsticks! Hahaha
shmi15
3/10/2018 4:34:30 AM

I didn't say I would take this go over VoL... I said I would play this guy with Thrawn before I played him with the BH squad.
General_Grievous
3/10/2018 5:10:02 AM

Ah my bad Shmi I misunderstood you. I was saying this guy is pointless to play without BHs as he's not great on his own.
surf_rider56
3/11/2018 4:00:01 AM

@ swine - "How the heck did I overlook that? I was all wrapped up in the Extra stuff. Gah! I'm gonna go rethink my life for a bit. ;D" It's too late, we all know already. Have a cold one instead and shrug your shoulders .... shorter and more cost effective in the long run. GG, I think the 1st wrong step was making a low costing Vader .... seems weird and opens up enough cans of worms for a county fishing show .......
General_Grievous
3/11/2018 5:43:59 AM

I stand by it, it's an original idea and everyone forgets about Rebel Storm hahaha
swinefeld
3/11/2018 5:51:47 AM

Placed Bounty is against one character and useless after its death, but if that enemy is the linchpin to the enemy's squad it could be a huge factor with Thrawn swap. Still, only some really crappy pieces can get the CE. If PB needs to be toned down, maybe only Unique or n/u, not both?
General_Grievous
3/11/2018 1:06:53 PM

Toned down to Unique BH only for PB
juice man
3/11/2018 9:19:41 PM

He maybe a low cost Vader, but he is not a powerhouse, so all is good. (More power in a Talon squad though)
General_Grievous
3/11/2018 9:29:45 PM

Thanks Juice appreciated
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