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Theorycrafting Contest #3: The Two-Squad Toe-to-Toe Meta Options
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:36:21 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
SignerJ wrote:
So, is there anything in the rules against me entering the same squad after it is no longer the previous champion? Because I really, really don't want Mara Jade, Jedi to win this competition.


Nope, not at all... that's one of the ways to win the competition. If your squad becomes champion three different times, you win.

Yeah, but I have more fun throwing older somewhat-lesser used characters at it just to see them shine - now to figure out a squad that makes Princess Leia, Captive useable...
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:08:11 AM
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My Captive Squad evolved into this (if only she cost 2 points less!)

Gundark
Blood Carver Assassin (was Leia, until...)
Ithorian Commander
Varactyl Wrangler (too much with leia :( )

Vs Champion
MR|DS
Gd|BC|IC|VW

Init 10-9
Gundark Mauls Mandalore (needs 3) 8, B(eskar'gam save) 7, 6, B5, 4, B3, 2 60 Damage!
Mandalore Fires on the Gundark (needs anything but a 1) 1 d'oh!, 20 CRIT! 40 Damage
Death Watch Saboteur attacks the Gundark (needs 8) 19! 20 Damage (60 total).
Blood Carver Attacks Mandalore (needs 7s) 18, B17, 16, B15 40 more Damage (100 total)
Ithorian Attacks Saboteur (needs 8) 14! 20 damage
Wrangler Grenade 10s Mandalore (rolling Ally saves first*) 13, 12 Mandalore rolls 11, DS rolls 10 - dead

Round 2 9-8
Gundark feasts on mandalores remains with an attack of 7

* if Opponent Rolls Saves first (and/or the DWS is targetted) the end result does not change the Gundark will finish off both Mandalore and the Saboteur, though the Blood Carver and Ithorian may have 10 damage on each of them.


Vs Prev Champ
AS|CT|MD
Gd|BC|IC|VW

Init 10-9
Gundark Mauls Aurra (needs 4) 8,7,6,5 (80 damage)
Aurra Attacks Gundark (needs 5) 4, FPRR 3, 2 Miss
Czerka Attacks Gundark (needs 18) 1!
BC attacks Aurra 20! 40 damage dead Aurra. Doubles the Czerka 19! S(hields)2 {18,17} 10 Damage
IC Attacks Czerka 16, S2 {15,14} no damage
Mouse Spins
*VW attacks Mouse (needs 13) 13! dead mouse (if it would use grenades instead see below)

Round 2 12-11
Gundark Attacks the Czerka (needs anything but 1) 10, S2 {9,8} dead Czerka

*or:
VW Grenades Mouse (Ally saves 13, 12, 11) (enemy Saves 10, S2 {9,8}, 7) dead mouse

Round 2 6-5
Gundark Attacks dead Czerka
spryguy1981
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:32:03 AM
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MMy Squad
Mara Jade, Jedi, Caamasi Noble

Vs previous CHampion

Gundark
Blood Carver Assassin (was Leia, until...)
Ithorian Commander
Varactyl Wrangler (too much with leia :( )

MJ CN
Gu BC IC VW

Init Challenger 10-9
Mara LSA Gundark 8,7,6 dead
Blood Carver on Mara 5 miss 4 miss
IC spins
Noble Spins
VW nades Mara 3 failed save, fprr 2 fail noble 1 failed save dead, BC 20 saves

Init Challenger 19-18
Mara LSA Blood Carver 16/15 dead
IC moves to base Mara 14 hit LSB 13
VW nades Mara 12 save, IC 11 save


Init CHallenger 10-9
Mara twins IC 8 dead
VW nades Mara 7 fail 10 dam


Init Challenger 6/5
Mara Twins 4/3 Dead VW

vs Previous CHampion
MJ CN
MR DW

Mara LSA Mandalore 8 BG 7 6 BG 5 4 BG 3 2 Miss 90 to Mandalore
Mandalore attacks Mara 1, 20 40 to Mara
DWS attacks Mara 19 20 more to Mara 60 total
CN spins

Init Challenger 18-17
Mara LSA 16 BG 15 dead Mandalore
2nd attack 14 dead DWS

This is my 3rd time winning with this squad thus I claim the title.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:08:42 AM
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Lord_Ball wrote:

* if Opponent Rolls Saves first (and/or the DWS is targetted) the end result does not change the Gundark will finish off both Mandalore and the Saboteur, though the Blood Carver and Ithorian may have 10 damage on each of them.


Doesn't matter at this point, but saves should have been made in the order of highest-cost first, just as with any targeting decisions. Also, the Mandalore was not a legal target for the grenades, so the VW had to target the DWS.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:18:49 AM
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Corrected skirmish, same result:

Lord_Ball wrote:

Vs Prev Champ
AS|CT|MD
Gd|BC|IC|VW

Init 10-9
Gundark Mauls Aurra (needs 4) 8,7,6,5 (80 damage)
Aurra Attacks Gundark (needs 5) 4, FPRR 3, 2 Miss
Czerka Attacks Gundark (needs 18) 1!
BC attacks Aurra 20! 40 damage dead Aurra. Doubles the Czerka 19! S(hields)2 {18,17} 10 Damage
IC Attacks Czerka 16, S2 {15,14} no damage
Mouse Spins
VW Grenades Mouse (Saves: Czerka 13 S2{12,11}, BC 10, IC 9, VW 8, MD 7) Dead mouse, dead VW, 10dmg to BC and IC.

Round 2 6-5
Gundark attacks Czerka. 4 S2{3,2}, 10dmg to Czerka. 1, 20, S2 {19,18}, 17, s2{16,15}.
Czerka attacks Gundark. 14 misses.
BC attacks Czerka. 13 hits, S2{12,11}. 10dmg to Czerka. Defeated.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:20:51 AM
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Congrats to spyguy1981! Thanks everyone!
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:29:02 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:

* if Opponent Rolls Saves first (and/or the DWS is targetted) the end result does not change the Gundark will finish off both Mandalore and the Saboteur, though the Blood Carver and Ithorian may have 10 damage on each of them.


Doesn't matter at this point, but saves should have been made in the order of highest-cost first, just as with any targeting decisions. Also, the Mandalore was not a legal target for the grenades, so the VW had to target the DWS.

I figured that was the case which is why I added that scenario - though the order of saves I was definitely unsure of.
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:47:17 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Corrected skirmish, same result:

Lord_Ball wrote:

Vs Prev Champ
AS|CT|MD
Gd|BC|IC|VW

Init 10-9
Gundark Mauls Aurra (needs 4) 8,7,6,5 (80 damage)
Aurra Attacks Gundark (needs 5) 4, FPRR 3, 2 Miss
Czerka Attacks Gundark (needs 18) 1!
BC attacks Aurra 20! 40 damage dead Aurra. Doubles the Czerka 19! S(hields)2 {18,17} 10 Damage
IC Attacks Czerka 16, S2 {15,14} no damage
Mouse Spins
VW Grenades Mouse (Saves: Czerka 13 S2{12,11}, BC 10, IC 9, VW 8, MD 7) Dead mouse, dead VW, 10dmg to BC and IC.

Round 2 6-5
Gundark attacks Czerka. 4 S2{3,2}, 20dmg to Czerka. Dead Czerka.

actually it would only be 10 damage on that last gundark attack since the wrangler died so he'd attack 3 more times (1, 20, S2 {19,18}, 17, s2{16,15}). Then the czerka would attack 14 miss, and end up being defeated by the BC.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:52:21 AM
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Thanks - corrected above.
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