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thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:35:52 AM
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Ok, I've gotta say it: I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING INTO SWM WITHDRAWAL! OMG Scared

After what seems like a nearly non-stop string of SWM events from March through August, there has been almost nothing since then.... Crying

Furthermore, V-Set 20 has so many cool new figures that I have a whole bunch of squads that I want to play, but no opportunity to play them.

Finally, there are currently no SWM events scheduled on Vassal for the month of November, and so I want to announce the....

November Light-Side / Dark-Side Tournament
Saturday, November 28, starting at 2:00 pm (Eastern time)

Please mark your calendars!

Since it is one of my personal favorite formats, and since it also allows us to use 2 squads rather than the usual 1, it seems to me that the LS/DS format will be a good way to go.

Matchups:
Before the tournament, all players will build two 200pt squads (including a map selection)...one from one of the LS factions, and one from one of the DS factions. These are regular, single-faction 200pt squads (with Fringe pieces allowed to be mixed into any squad, as per usual). For the purposes of this event, this is the faction breakdown:

Light Side factions:
OR
Republic
Rebel
NR
Fringe

Dark Side factions:
Sith
Separatist
Imperial
Yuuzhan Vong
Mandalorian

* At the start of each match-up, players will roll off.
* The winner gets to select which of his/her squads he would like to play (LS or DS); the other player will then play with the squad he/she brought from the opposite faction (DS or LS). Alternatively, the winner of the roll-off can choose to defer this choice to his/her opponent.
* The player who did not select the squad match-up then automatically wins the map choice AND the side choice for that match.


Format:
As per usual on Vassal, rounds will be 75 minutes. We will play Swiss Rounds until we arrive at one undefeated player, at which point we will make a top cut.
--less than 6 players: Top 2
--6-10 players: Top 4
--11+ players: First we celebrate at having so many players...WOOHOO! Then we cut to a Top 8.


Maps:
We will use all the maps on the Restricted Maplist for this event (yes, they are all available on the most recent version of Vassal):

-Throne Room
-Starport Terminal
-Starport District
-Bothan Spynet (Spynet HQ)
-Rhen Var (Ice World Citadel)
-Outlaw City
-Cantina
-Ravaged Base (Commander's Office)


Registration:
If you'd like to play, please respond in this thread.

Just like with other SWM events on Vassal, you can register for the event up to 1 hour before the start time (so 11:00 am EDT). I will post in this thread when I've sent my squad info to a neutral party, after which point you will be free to send me your squad info. When you do so, please send me a BlooMail which includes the following information:

LS Squad Name:
LS Squad Link:
LS Squad Map:

DS Squad Name:
DS Squad Link:
DS Squad Map:

In order to save time and hassle during the event, please take a moment to pre-Save both of your squads before the event begins.


If you're reading this, then I hope you can join us! This event is free, and open to anyone who knows the rules and wants to play. It doesn't matter if you haven't played for more than 12 parsecs Huh and it's not important whether you're a padawan or a sith master. To quote a very gifted and astute individual, "We would be honoured if you would join us...."



Participants:
in!
thereisnotry
DarthBainCapital
urbanshmi
adamb0nd
TimmerB123


possibly in...??
urbanjedi ??
Spryguy1981 ??
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:36:24 AM
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Name: adamb0nd


Light Side: Wok Cartel
--Wok Cartel--
43 Jabba Desilijic Tiure
21 Ewok Battle Wagon
20 Bib Fortuna, Majordomo
16 Chief Chirpa
16 Mace Towani
15 Teebo, Ewok Sentry
12 Logray, Ewok Shaman
11 Bright Tree Village Ewok
10 Cindel Towani
8 R7 Astromech Droid
8 Teek
8 Wicket
7 Ewok Hang Glider
6 Ewok Scout
5 Ewok Warrior
5 Killik Drone
5 Salacious Crumb
3 Ewok
3 Mouse Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
2 Kneesaa, Ewok Princess
(227pts. 21 activations)

LS Squad Map: Throne Room

Dark Side: The Babe With the Power
--The Babe with the Power--
67 The Mandalorian (Din Djarin) and the Child
56 Jango Fett, Mandalore
32 Venku Skirata
32 Mandalorian Gunsmith x2
11 Mandalorian Scientist
2 Kneesaa, Ewok Princess
(200pts. 7 activations)

DS Squad Map: Throne Room



Name: DarthBainCapital


Light Side: Revenge of the Younglings
--Revenge of the Younglings--
55 General Obi-Wan Kenobi
47 General Skywalker
20 Commander Gree
16 Queen Amidala
8 Mas Amedda
48 Youngling x12
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 19 activations)

LS Squad Map: Starport District

Dark Side: Pawn Shop
--Pawn Shop--
57 General Grievous, Droid Army Commander
45 X-1 Viper Droid
36 Darth Sidious
30 IG Lancer Droid
12 Gha Nachkt
8 Battle Droid Officer
7 R7 Astromech Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
2 Mouse Droid
(200pts. 9 activations)

DS Squad Map: Starport District



Name: TimmerB123


Light Side: Karrde's New Mission
40 Zaalbar, "Big Z"
32 Talon Karrde, Information Broker
31 Morrigan Corde
28 Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler
27 Lobot
22 Mission Vao (-5 rapport from "Big Z")
10 Droopy McCool
4 Prowler 1000 Seeker Droid
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 10 activations)

LS Squad Map: Outlaw City

Dark Side: Revan's Disappearing Nightsisters
62 Darth Revan, Sith Lord
33 Asajj Ventress, Nightsister (-2 Rapport from Mother Talzin)
31 Mother Talzin
23 Nightsister Hunter (-2 Rapport from Mother Talzin)
19 Talia, Nightsister Hunter (-2 Rapport from Mother Talzin)
16 Sith Witch
8 R7 Astromech Droid
3 Mouse Droid
3 XT-6 Droid
2 Kneesaa, Ewok Princess
(200pts. 10 activations)

DS Squad Map: Starport Terminal



Name: thereisnotry


Light Side: Yoda Mace Ima
65 Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side
55 Yoda, Master of the Order
23 Foul Moudama
20 Ima Gun-Di
14 Coleman Trebor
11 Jedi Holocron
9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
(200pts. 8 activations)

LS Squad Map: Outlaw City

Dark Side: Rule of Two
50 Darth Bane, Sith Master
48 Darth Zannah
36 Atton "Jaq" Rand
27 Githany, Sith Lord
14 Exar Kun, Dark Force Spirit
11 Dark Disciple
8 Sith Recruit x2
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
3 XT-6 Droid
(200pts. 10 activations)

DS Squad Map: Cantina



Name: UrbanShmi

Light Side: NR Cause J Said So
46 Rey Skywalker
32 Lando Calrissian, New Republic Liaison
30 Ben Solo, Redeemed
29 Ganner Rhysode
18 Klatooinian Captain
15 Eryl Besa
13 BB-8
10 Jagged Fel
4 Loth-cat
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
(200pts. 10 activations)

LS Squad Map: Rhen Var Citadel

Dark Side: Sisters of the CIS
35 Asajj Ventress, Nightsister
33 Nightsister Shaman
31 Mother Talzin
75 Nightsister Hunter x3
21 Talia, Nightsister Hunter
8 Bothan Saboteur
6 Mouse Droid x2
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist

(212pts. 11 activations) (200 points after rapport from Mama T)

DS Squad Map: Outlaw City
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:36:54 AM
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Players
adamb0nd
DarthBainCapital
TimmerB123
thereisnotry
UrbanShmi


Round 1
thereisnotry (DS) vs DarthBainCapital (LS) - thereisnotry wins 3-0 (213-65)
adamb0nd (LS) vs TimmerB123 (DS) - TimmerB123 wins 2-0 (139-89)
UrbanShmi vs Bye - Laura wins 3-0 (200-0)

...After Round 1:
thereisnotry 3 (1-0)
UrbanShmi 3 (1-0)
TimmerB123 2 (1-0)
DarthBainCapital 0 (0-1)
adamb0nd 0 (0-1)


Round 2
thereisnotry vs UrbanShmi - thereisnotry wins 3-1 (203-118)
TimmerB123 vs DarthBainCapital - TimmerB123 wins 3-0 (200-36)
adamb0nd vs Bye - adamb0nd wins 3-0 (200-0)

...After Round 2:
thereisnotry 6 (2-0)
TimmerB123 5 (2-0)
UrbanShmi 4 (1-1)
adamb0nd 3 (1-1)
DarthBainCapital 0 (0-2)



Round 3
thereisnotry vs TimmerB123 - thereisnotry wins 3-1 (200-141)
UrbanShmi vs adamb0nd - adamb0nd wins 3-0 (200-59)
DarthBainCapital vs Bye - DarthBainCapital wins 3-0 (200-0)

...After Round 3:
thereisnotry 9 (3-0)
TimmerB123 6 (2-1)
adamb0nd 6 (2-1)
UrbanShmi 4 (1-2)
DarthBainCapital 3 (1-2)



Finals
thereisnotry (DS) vs TimmerB123 (LS) - TimmerB123 wins 3-0 (227-81)


Congrats Tim!
adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:13:13 AM
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When you build your LS and DS squads, do you build from all those factions? or pick one and build faction pure? No fringe unless you play LS?
DarthBainCapital
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:13:34 AM
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Sign me up
Mando
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:25:05 AM
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i'm pretty sure this will work for me to attend. Thanks for organizing this thereisnotry!
UrbanShmi
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:31:24 AM
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I should be in. J will know closer to the date (but he's been off work on Saturdays a lot, so this should work for him, as well).
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:41:06 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
When you build your LS and DS squads, do you build from all those factions? or pick one and build faction pure? No fringe unless you play LS?

You build a squad from one of those factions (always allowing for Fringe pieces to be included in any squad, of course).

So no, it's not a mash-up squad from all of the Light-Side or all of the Dark-Side factions.

Thanks for asking me to clarify! I'll update with this info in the original post.

EDIT: The original post is now updated with clearer wording. ThumpUp
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:59:11 AM
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thereisnotry wrote:
Ok, I've gotta say it: I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING INTO SWM WITHDRAWAL! OMG Scared

After what seems like a nearly non-stop string of SWM events from March through August, there has been almost nothing since then.... Crying

Furthermore, V-Set 20 has so many cool new figures that I have a whole bunch of squads that I want to play, but no opportunity to play them.


There have been 5 tournaments since GenCon. It's not near-weekly like it was during regionals season, but it has been far more active than most Fall Star Wars Minis seasons.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:36:30 AM
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thereisnotry wrote:

Light Side factions:
OR
Republic
Rebel
NR
Fringe

Dark Side factions:
Sith
Separatist
Imperial
Yuuzhan Vong
Mandalorian


It's just a tournament so it doesn't really matter, but most of the pure Fringe subfactions are criminals (Black Sun, Hutts, Crimson Dawn, Bounty Hunters). Mandalorians are a mixed bag, and their most famous representatives are themselves bounty hunters, but I personally would have flip-flopped Fringe to dark side and Mandos to light-side. Though I guess there is some balance to have at least one of the Ysalamiri pieces on the Light-half since Pellaeaon and the Vong are both darkside.
thereisnotry
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FlyingArrow wrote:
thereisnotry wrote:

Light Side factions:
OR
Republic
Rebel
NR
Fringe

Dark Side factions:
Sith
Separatist
Imperial
Yuuzhan Vong
Mandalorian


It's just a tournament so it doesn't really matter, but most of the pure Fringe subfactions are criminals (Black Sun, Hutts, Crimson Dawn, Bounty Hunters). Mandalorians are a mixed bag, and their most famous representatives are themselves bounty hunters, but I personally would have flip-flopped Fringe to dark side and Mandos to light-side. Though I guess there is some balance to have at least one of the Ysalamiri pieces on the Light-half since Pellaeaon and the Vong are both darkside.
Yes, I know. This arrangement is entirely to prevent the strangle-hold of sith force dominance that comes when it doesn't have to deal with Ysalamiri or Force Immunity.
Caedus
Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 5:56:12 PM
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I would love to play, but unfortunately this is Thanksgiving weekend. I'll be out of town all weekend. Sorry
thereisnotry
Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:48:02 PM
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Oops! I’ve moved back to Canada and I forgot to consider American thanksgiving weekend. Should we move the event to November 21 or December 5? Either would be fine for me.
Mando
Posted: Friday, October 23, 2020 4:12:14 AM
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I'd like the one earlier in November. I'll be on vacation the first 2 weeks of December and traveling
UrbanShmi
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I can't do it earlier in November, as I have a big paper due that day. But definitely do what works the best for the most people.
DarthBainCapital
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I will likely be travelling Dec 5th.
Mando
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21st of november now doesn't work for me. I forgot i had a wedding to go to in New Mexico so i'll be gone a few days. it'd have to be the 5th of December for me to be able to join. Thanksgiving weekend i have my family coming to visit, so i can't play that weekend.
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 9:57:13 AM
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It doesn't look like moving the date will allow more people to participate, so we might as well keep the original November 28 date.
Mando
Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:31:09 AM
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i'll not be playing that day then as i have my brother and his wife coming to visit. hope everyone else has fun tho! should be a great tournament and i'm curious to see what people bring.
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I'm a maybe. Long, daytime tournaments don't usually fit my schedule, but Thanksgiving weekend makes it more likely to work. I'm probably still less than 50/50, though. Incidentally, if you push the start time back 2 or 3 hours you might be able to pick up a NZ player or two. But probably not necessary to consider that unless one of them actually requests.
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