I agree. This is a definate issue

we might kill the goose that laid the golden egg ?

What tournaments are those? Whose authority? Every major tournament from regional tournaments to GenCon utilize the vset pieces. They are legal... and promoted... at EVERY sanctioned tournament at the highest level.

I think there is something to 'producing too many vsets' though. There's potential burnout for the people working on the sets to consider. Also, people complaining about not being able to play everything before the next set comes out is an interesting one. Think about that... even when WotC was producing sets at a brisk pace, that was never brought up as an issue. Why? I think because of the overall quality of each vset as opposed to the widely varied usefulness of the pieces in each WotC set. We have more good pieces and combos to explore in each vset. I think thats a good problem to have.

I'd like to see us produce 1 vset each year, distributed at GenCon, with another January set produced every other year.

Although the V-Sets result in slightly more pieces annually than the WotC sets (120 pieces + misc sets vs 120 pieces), I don't think this is a particular problem.

Personally, when WotC was producing pieces, I preferred three 40-piece sets to two 60-piece sets because that was "buzz" three times a year. For the V-Sets, though, the "buzz season" (most notably previews) seems to last longer. The discussion after the fact also seems to remain lively for a bit longer (perhaps because the designers will respond to some of the discussion points), so overall it's probably the same amount of time annually that there's active forum discussions for 2 V-Sets as 3 WotC sets.

I think there's something to be said for there being more playable pieces in the V-Sets vs the WotC (W-Sets), primarily in the commons/uncommons. In the average W-Set, there were typically one, two, MAYBE three standout pieces, and most were filler or highly niche. As consumers, we accepted that because many of the "useless" pieces LOOKED COOL.

Still, I think two sets a year is a nice rate.

I tend to think, less is more. I'd honestly rather see just one 72 piece set every year being released at GenCon. I've barely had the time to digest RaR as it is. I think this would give designers and playtesters not as much headache and more time to complete well thought out sets. (not saying these aren't).

Queensland I'd say. New Zealand has pretty much the most up-to-date stuff in all areas of minis. We even have our own Facebook group

I'd say we accepted them more because that's what we're trained to accept. After so many years of playing collectible games and the like, we've become desensitized to the bad cards. We just open up a pack and flip through it going "crap, crap, crap, good, crap, crap, decent, crap. Nothing new."

With the V-sets, the general thought process is "What if we made all the cards good?" and it shows. Sure, some of them are more specialized than others, but every v-set figure can easily be encountered in regular play. And when you're adding 120 playable figures into the mix per year instead of 50, that tends to really expand the meta and keep the game alive.

Really!? Can you tell me if they have made a better Calo Nord yet? Please!

On topic; I think that the current releases are fine, but, I am not sure that the mini-sets are needed. They are fun, but, I don't know if they are really adding that much to competitive play (but, I don't play with a group anymore, so, I don't know anything).

I think if there was only 1 set a year the forum here would just die. 2 sets a year keeps members hanging around because there something new to come back for. Yes smaller 40 characters sets over 3 sets a year would be ideal, but it has to be viable with the printing cost side of the vsets, in other words cost effective. So if that means 2 larger sets then so be it.

In all honestly I don't think these sort of topics are helpful at all, and as this is the second similar topic in as many weeks i wonder if its worth carrying on, as such negative topics will kill the vsets anyway. personally if you don't want the vsets just don't have them. Its not necessary to keep posting topic after topic about it and what each individual member thinks is right or wrong with the vsets.

Not helpful at all.

I like the V-sets, and use the V-sets.

The purpose of my comments was to discuss what is takes for many V-sets over many years (marathon) vs. lots of bigger V-sets that fizzle out in the long run (sprint), due to production cost & overworked design teams.

Seeing as how we have never had to ask for more than $50 for the printing of a set of cards, and usually asked for half that, I'm not sure which costs you would be referring to. Maybe you know something I don't.