Aside from the discussion in the SHNN thread from the show last week, there hasn't really been an official announcement here about the final decisions regarding errata to Admiral Daala and related characters. So here it is:

Zygerrian Slaver

- loses Slave Driver (errata from earlier this year)

Admiral Daala

- loses Rapport and her CE instead grants regular Charging Fire (errata from earlier this year)

- loses Imperial Reserves 20

Snowtrooper Officer

- Rapport for Snowtroopers changed from 2 to 1


*The V-Set team is currently looking at options to reprint the cards so players can obtain up-to-date cards to use.


side note:
The squad builder will be updated to reflect the change to the Snowtrooper Officer's Rapport when the V-set 8 stuff is finally fixed. My apologies for the delay with all that stuff. Long story short - I've been a bit overextended, to put it mildly. Thanks for your patience.

Please feel free to discuss the changes here.

Yeah, I thought that the Scout Trooper build was ingenious and inventive. It wasn't overpowered at all, but it was definitely Tier 1. Snowtroopers, on the other hand, were just disgusting.

Only the loss of Reserves.

Yes. Dr Daman's Raxus squad is the one that won a lot in New Zealand.

I took 5th with Snowtroopers at GenCon and I've been the most vocal Snowtrooper player.

At the tournament level, I don't think Snowtroopers are as good as Raxus/Elites. Although I don't think it's really the Raxus/Elites that give them their power - it's the Repulsor Sled. The Repulsor can piggyback off all the Raxus/Elite boosts but it doesn't mesh so well in a Snowtrooper squad. You can't fit the Snowtrooper commanders, the troops, a Repulsor plus the commanders you need to boost the Repulsor. The Repulsor gives you a really strong deep strike option that you don't get with Snowtroopers.

But... the Snowtroopers can pack a lot more firepower, and that makes them unbalancing for certain squad types (which tend to be some of the most popular types). If you go with a bigger swarm/more firepower, though, you're also more susceptible to Yobuck/Lancer/other scissors squads. At GenCon, I went with a few more troops that have 30-50hp in order to have at least a chance (small one) against Yobuck. Never faced him, though.

I don't know if I'll play Daala at a tournament again, but if I did there's a good chance I'd switch to a Repulsor squad even without the change to Snowtrooper Rapport.

i agree that both the scouts and raxus take more skill to use, i just find it interesting that the only squad effected was the one that has done the worst. I agree that snowtroopers may be the biggest problem for rock squads and maybe thats why only they were addressed. I just think that more should have been done to daala, and based on the poll numbers more people wanted more done to her. In my opinion Daala squads are still the go to imperial squads, and that is sad to me. in a faction with vader/palpatine it is some worthless, crappy commander that rules supreme. but maybe she was the "flavor of the month" and no one will use her anymore in favor of new toys from set 8..... i'm looking at you neocrusaders

No. And yes. It continued to win after the errata.

For what it's worth, in competitive play this year here are the Snowtrooper results:

Michigan Regional: Lou, 4-1 overall (loss to TimmerB's Luke+LeiaSpeeder)
LowerHuttaCon: Ian, 1-2 overall (loss to Darth O's Valenthyne/Hoth and to Kez's Angry Luke)
PA Regional: FlyingArrow, 4-0
Canada: One snowtrooper squad, 1-1 (loss to -unknown-)
IL Regional: DarkDracul, 1-3 (loss to urbanjedi Vong Blastbuggers, atmsalad's Furious Mando Mercs, TimmerB's Klat swarm)
NZ Champs: TheHutts, 5-1 (loss to DrDaman's Daala Raxus)

GenCon:
FlyingArrow, 4-2 (loss to Weeks' Cloaked Mandos, countrydude's CadBH, DurgeSpeeder)
gholli69, 2-3 (loss to atmsalad's Daala Elite Scouts, a Gloom Walker squad, TimmerB's Luke+LeiaSpeeder)

Edit: Adding NZ Vassal Tournament:
thereisnotry, 1-0
(Players could change squads each round in this tournament, and we don't have results for all matches so there may be other Snowtrooper games from that tournament.)

Total: 23-13 (3 losses to Strafing squads, 6 losses to swarm-ish squads, 3 losses to rock-ish squads, 1 unknown)

I wouldn't say it takes no skill to play Snowtroopers. They lost more than one third of the time. That's a good winning percentage, but not high enough that you can just grab it and expect to win.

But it does look like it takes skill to beat her. All of the people listed above who beat her are 'name' players who have at least a GenCon top-8 to their credit, or are known to be good players in NZ. The only exceptions are the Gloom Walker squad at GenCon (not sure who that player was) and the unknown squad from Canada regional.

And based on the results above, it appears that TimmerB needs an errata.

All the being said, I'm fine with the changes. Reserves needed to be dropped. Until GenCon I hardly ever hit it, and when it did hit it was too late to make any difference either way. At GenCon, I hit it against Weeks (and still lost). And hit it (just once, Jim) against thereisnotry, and there's a good chance that Reserves tipped the game in my favor. Kind of evened out his 5 or 6 SSM saves in a row early in the game . But Reserves is not something that she needs. Dropping the Rapport means 2-4 fewer Snowtroopers or one fewer commander (e.g. SOS or GARY), which may be all the difference in enough matches.

With the changes, I definitely would have lost to thereisnotry at GenCon. Almost certainly would have lost to countrydude in both of our games. We split our two games - both were extremely close. If I had to drop 15 points worth of firepower I think I would've lost both. (Although the 2nd game wouldn't have even happened because I wouldn't have made the top 8 for the rematch.) That would have made me 2-3 at GenCon assuming my match-ups didn't change.

I do know that the poll showed that only 7 of the people that voted wanted reserves dropped, 11 wanted to leave her alone, 12 wanted to ban her and 11 wanted her changed more. so more people were looking for bigger changes then were looking for reserves/leave her alone, and the greatest number of people wanted her banned. (I did not vote for ban her myself.) Don't get me wrong I am glad with any changes to her whatsoever though, just voicing my opinion that she needed more done to her. specifically I liked Tim's idea of charging-10.

Daala was popular cause she is new, it doesn't mean she is better than Thrawn squads. An imperial Black and Blue squad is still good today even tho it doesn't need any V-set pieces. People were playing Daala a lot to make a point, IMO, and we have gotten some changes made to her. I think its very premature to say she needs even more changes when you haven't even seen how effective the new updated errata is. Flyingarrow said that the changes to his Snowtrooper build would have cost him a game in Gencon vs Tint had this errata been in effect.