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surf_rider56
Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:44:51 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Well, when the cards are as good as yours...



Blushing .... please, my wife is in the room Wink


PS Flattery will get you places, but I'd rather people commented. If things are good at work, I have a few ready, possibly for next weekend.
corranhorn
Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:27:34 PM
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Thought you didn't want me to dredge up old customs?
surf_rider56
Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:05:47 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Thought you didn't want me to dredge up old customs?


I'll take comments on any/all of my customs - old or new!
corranhorn
Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:39:19 PM
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Ok! BigGrin

(These are all from page 2)

I like the Trandoshan Slaver, I've been down a similar line of thought haha.
The Toydarian Ruffian is cool...I like seeing Strafe Attack on a 5 point shooter, but it might be overpowered. Playtesting will tell.
Just something you forgot...shouldn't the swoop bike have some sort of Transport ability? I like the idea for that mini a lot.
i think Rianna might be overcosted...with only a single attack and no damage boosters she isn't really worth 30 points.
I like the Ithorian Clan leader, but he might be a tad undercosted with a rangeless CE like that.
Ihtorian Fighter is cool, nice subfaction. ThumpUp
As cool as Assaj, Nightsister is, she needs some sort of defensive abilities. 100 HP and 20 Def w/ no defensive abilities is not really visable at 58 points.
LOVE Dooku on the speeder. ThumbsUp
I think Nuvo should cost a bit more...even with a weak Defense and Unique the BSV is crazy strong.
I'd suggest making Draco's SL20 one Force point. Helps offset some of Sith Lightning's disadvantages.
Incinerator trooper is awesome, now for a mini! Tongue
The Yuuzhan Vong implanter's CE seems too strong for its cost.
What does the +2 on Vondoun Armor Shaper mean? -2 from the required save?
Ambush seems unnessecary on the Umbaran Trooper.
I'm all for the Mustafarian love!
KDY-D5 would be a cool piece to play, nice work!
Korriban Dark Side tutor is an interesting piece...
Falleen Thief's pirce should increase a bit. Very cool idea, but he should cost at least 7 becuase of his defenses.
Great representation of Aurra Sing! ThumpUp
surf_rider56
Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:07:42 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Ok! BigGrin

(These are all from page 2)

I like the Trandoshan Slaver, I've been down a similar line of thought haha.
The Toydarian Ruffian is cool...I like seeing Strafe Attack on a 5 point shooter, but it might be overpowered. Playtesting will tell.
Just something you forgot...shouldn't the swoop bike have some sort of Transport ability? I like the idea for that mini a lot.
i think Rianna might be overcosted...with only a single attack and no damage boosters she isn't really worth 30 points.
I like the Ithorian Clan leader, but he might be a tad undercosted with a rangeless CE like that.
Ihtorian Fighter is cool, nice subfaction. ThumpUp
As cool as Assaj, Nightsister is, she needs some sort of defensive abilities. 100 HP and 20 Def w/ no defensive abilities is not really visable at 58 points.
LOVE Dooku on the speeder. ThumbsUp
I think Nuvo should cost a bit more...even with a weak Defense and Unique the BSV is crazy strong.
I'd suggest making Draco's SL20 one Force point. Helps offset some of Sith Lightning's disadvantages.
Incinerator trooper is awesome, now for a mini! Tongue
The Yuuzhan Vong implanter's CE seems too strong for its cost.
What does the +2 on Vondoun Armor Shaper mean? -2 from the required save?
Ambush seems unnessecary on the Umbaran Trooper.
I'm all for the Mustafarian love!
KDY-D5 would be a cool piece to play, nice work!
Korriban Dark Side tutor is an interesting piece...
Falleen Thief's pirce should increase a bit. Very cool idea, but he should cost at least 7 becuase of his defenses.
Great representation of Aurra Sing! ThumpUp




Hmmm, Bike; no other swoop or bike has it so I didn't include it.


On Rianna, she probably Should have some form of Double/Twin. The 30 cam from the number/variety of SA's.

Ithorian Clan leader; possibly undercosted by 2 or so. I call it "aggresively costed" and he wouldn't be the worst piece in that mode.

Ventriss - I never considered her to be good defensively, other than being able to duel; she always seemed to ultimetly lose those duels. Maybe lose Sith Grip and put in LtSaber Defense .....

Nuvoo - you think Anybody's going to let him live long enough to get in range? But if he does .... which is the whole idea of germ warfare.

Draco - everybodies Sith Lightning is 2 Force Points ....

Implanter - low cost, but its Only offensive weapon is Dominate, which is not a high-probability weapon. It won't last long with no offensive weapons.

Crab Armor Shaper? Every adjacent charracters crab armor gains +2.

Umbaran - Ambush may be unnecessary, but it seemed to be part of the characters mode of fighting

KDY-D5 (Kuat Drive Yard by the way) .. I've got like for 4 Trek Runabouts I use as "Dropships" in scenario's. By the way, did you like the Mage Knight Jedi from my 3D pics that were near the Ships?

Falleen - Cheap Because of his low D points; more D points more cost. By the way, costing pieces under 15 is the trickiest of all. Costing pieces in the 15 - 47pts, no problem. Over 47, its a coin flip +/- 5 points. Under 15, its +/- 3-5 ...


These were my thought when making them. But a year later, who am I to argue in light of new pieces. I'm redoing/reviewing pieces. I've finished the Vong, Sith, Seps, Reps and started the Rebels .... I'm going down the Alpha backwards but the Fringe scares me it is humongous .....

corranhorn
Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:44:49 AM
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Bike- Yeah, I misinterpreted the piece from the pic. I thought it was supposed to be something that people could just get on.

Nuvo- Probably not, but you have to consider Transport etc.

Draco- True, but the damage is downgraded.

Implanter- Command pieces with no offensive capabilities to speak of can succeed. Look at Mas Ammeda (Yes, he can attack, but it's pretty pathetic).

Crab Shaper- Still not clear on that. Increasing the number of the VCA would make it worse, since you're increasing the save needed.

Umbaran- Touche. Tongue Maybe with an eventual Sep Extra Attack CE.

KDY D5- Oooh, that's cool. Imagine Darth Krayt flying in on the Rio Grande! Woot

Falleen- Normally, yes. In his case though, the Defense might not even come into play. Agreed on the costing difficulty!
corranhorn
Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:21:51 PM
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I'm waiting for a response on another thread (We all do it! Blushing) so it's a good time to look over some of your customs! BigGrin (That may have sounded disparaging...not how I meant it).
No pressure to respond quickly, I'm just throwing these out there.
Anyway, these are from page 4;

The idea behind the Jedi Temple Sniper (and the mini itself, of course) jumped out at me as really cool. A Jedi sniping with a thrown lightsaber? Sign me up!

I like your take on the Nimbus Commando. ThumpUp

I like your Embo, but he should have more damage output to be viable at 23 points. Also, I know Acrobatic wasn't out when you crated Leap but it seems like you cuould just replace Leap with Acrobatic.

Vurk Weapons Specialist is cool, worthy of Heavy Weapon! ThumpUp

I like the Forward Observation droid as well, nice to see more Spotter!

T'Surr slaver is a great idea, those guys are scary enough without guns! =O



I don't think your Zabrak Jedi Padawan is overpowered at all, well costed.

In fact I think the Cathar Jedi Knight may be a bit overcosted. With only a +7 Attack he won't be pulling his weight.

Chagrian Jedi Knight is good, I like seeing Force Storm on Jedi! Especially non-Unique ones!

Love the Dug! Cool idea; plus Leap N' Sweep fits them perfectly.

I love to see Feeorin! ThumbsUp

...As I do Selkath, and the Force powers on the Selkath JM fit them perfectly!

I like your take on Tott, but he's a bit overcosted. Also, no representation of his beast-talking abilities? (Empathy perhaps? Although that feels too bland for what he could do)

Savage Oppress is cool and fits him perfectly, I think he's a bit overcosted though. Savage and low survivability means he will die FAST.

Whoa, that Savrip is crazy! Might want to make it Rend +10, 80 on the move is a lot of damage for 26 points.

I like the Sluissi tech a lot, PCU is an excellent idea

Same goes for Talz Mechanic and IGTTYN! Haha, I'm a bit curious why you used a Talz medic for the mechanic Tongue

I think Stun Mortar on the 6 point Weequay is too powerful but that's an old discussion.





Btw, why not just use Force Lightning 1 instead of SL20 on Valin Draco?
surf_rider56
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:58:57 AM
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corranhorn wrote:

The idea behind the Jedi Temple Sniper (and the mini itself, of course) jumped out at me as really cool. A Jedi sniping with a thrown lightsaber? Sign me up!

I like your take on the Nimbus Commando. ThumpUp

I like your Embo, but he should have more damage output to be viable at 23 points. Also, I know Acrobatic wasn't out when you crated Leap but it seems like you cuould just replace Leap with Acrobatic.

Vurk Weapons Specialist is cool, worthy of Heavy Weapon! ThumpUp

I like the Forward Observation droid as well, nice to see more Spotter!

T'Surr slaver is a great idea, those guys are scary enough without guns! =O



I don't think your Zabrak Jedi Padawan is overpowered at all, well costed.

In fact I think the Cathar Jedi Knight may be a bit overcosted. With only a +7 Attack he won't be pulling his weight.

Chagrian Jedi Knight is good, I like seeing Force Storm on Jedi! Especially non-Unique ones!

Love the Dug! Cool idea; plus Leap N' Sweep fits them perfectly.

I love to see Feeorin! ThumbsUp

...As I do Selkath, and the Force powers on the Selkath JM fit them perfectly!

I like your take on Tott, but he's a bit overcosted. Also, no representation of his beast-talking abilities? (Empathy perhaps? Although that feels too bland for what he could do)

Savage Oppress is cool and fits him perfectly, I think he's a bit overcosted though. Savage and low survivability means he will die FAST.

Whoa, that Savrip is crazy! Might want to make it Rend +10, 80 on the move is a lot of damage for 26 points.

I like the Sluissi tech a lot, PCU is an excellent idea

Same goes for Talz Mechanic and IGTTYN! Haha, I'm a bit curious why you used a Talz medic for the mechanic Tongue

I think Stun Mortar on the 6 point Weequay is too powerful but that's an old discussion.


Btw, why not just use Force Lightning 1 instead of SL20 on Valin Draco?




Well, as I wrestle with a melee only squad ...... sorta in order ...

Jedi Sniper - Not my idea as such; I was working on characters that might be in the Temple itself during the 501st attack. He's in Wook ....

My Nimbus isn’t that different, but it is interesting to compare how close I came to the V-Set version.

Embo - I thought he was reasonable considering he’s so agile/evasive. I did make him early; I’ve also since seen a better pic; I may redo him down the road …..

Cathar Jedi - He was costed to his abilities (abilities generated at random) and while you’re right he’s not worth much offensively, his cost compared to his abilities are what they are; take Force Cloak out and he drops to 20-21.

Chagrian Jedi - another example of a randomly generated FP; this one came out more offensive!

Dug Jedi - Leap N' Sweep; I did it on purpose cause they fit but I hadn’t thought of your saying ThumpUp

Tott - As I look at the card, LtSaber Reflect could go and maybe a Force Empathy of sorts could be done ….hmmm. Costing yet again contingent upon FP’s used.

Opres - I created him before the revival of Maul and this is the way I saw him; as for survivability, he wasn’t very defensive, just a killing machine … his 20 Defense represents his strong nature, and I wouldn’t say a mini with 20 D has a low survivability issue …..

Savrip - …. But .... He’s so Dang Big!

Talz - Why the pic? He looked more like a mechanic than a medic! BigGrin

Weequay - Stun Can be nasty, but it fit the character and as the argument goes, how long will that figure live? If he has “sight” to use the stun mortor, he can be seen, and with 10pts and a D of 14, if he’s seen, he’s pretty much dead!

Draco - Why Sith Lightning; I always thought Force Lighning could be a gray area “Light” power, but Draco is definitely a Darksider, so Sith it is.

To the ones you liked, a collective thank you! BlooMilk

Thanks for the opinions …. I’m doing Semester grades; I may get my next group done by the end of the weekend …. or not. Oh Well …..

Blink
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:39:57 AM
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The problem with Embo is that although he's agile, he has either a damage output of 10, or of 20 (in which case you can't take advantage of his mobility).

Cathar Jedi- His problem is that none of his Force powers ae offensive. he is good in that he can get around the battlefield very easily (Knight Speed, Leap, Cloak) but once he actually goes up against someone he can't do much.

Dug- Thanks! BigGrin

One nice thing about Leap N' Sweep is that it's actually something that can be worth doing I.e. Leaping into a massof stormies and then Sweeping them under the rug.

Oppress- Normally you'd be right but in today's game a 20 Defense dosen't go that far, esp. on a 43 point piece, when combined with Savage.

Savrip- Touche. BlooMilk

Talz- Yeah, gotta agree with you there, heh. Pic's from the FUCG but I never thought it was the best pic for the Medic class.

Weequay- You have to consider things like Swap here.

Draco- I would still reduce the cost though, the way you have it SL20 is objectively worse than FL1.

Yikes, that grading must be nasty! Scared
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:59:38 AM
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Death Watch Sympathizer is so insanely overpowered, I can't express it. Scared
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:12:00 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Death Watch Sympathizer is so insanely overpowered, I can't express it. Scared


Yet those Death Watch guys, even if you use miy DW guys you could only get 2 at most; but I made him before the V-Setters made the DW Merc and Sabateur. With them in, you Can stock up on bodies. Because of That, you're right, I'll have to up his $$ now .... Dang V-Setters!! Sad
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Honestly, I'm against the idea of minis with Reinforcements totals greater than their point cost, even for underused subfactions. It's so easy to abuse...you could end up with an 800 (roughly) point squad total at 200. You pay that 11 points and you've already got Pre Viszla, etc.
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:05:55 AM
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corranhorn wrote:
Honestly, I'm against the idea of minis with Reinforcements totals greater than their point cost, even for underused subfactions. It's so easy to abuse...you could end up with an 800 (roughly) point squad total at 200. You pay that 11 points and you've already got Pre Viszla, etc.


Yes, I hear ya; I've looked at my cards and noticed 2-3 offenders. Trying to figure out why the card calculator did that; Excel's not my strong suit.
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Heh, I don't even use a cost calculator. Some call it "lunacy". I call it "riding bareback". Tongue
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Alright...another info dump...just like always, no pressure to respond quickly or really at all;

(From page 7)


I like the Cantina bartender a lot, I would suggest upping his point cost by 1 so that you can't just toss out 3 Mouse Droids for him when making a squad (Giving out Recon is prety strong).

Hutt Cartek Stim Dealer- May I suggest for the flavor text: "Wanna buy some death sticks?" Tongue

Fanatic is a cool ability.

I LOVE the Mando Tech Specialist, awesome idea. (Even if I did hate that Revan novel)

Dathomir Rancor is a great idea...Rapport might be better if it was -3, so that this guy would be more usable with the Nightsisters.

I like your take on Slugthrower. It shouldn't be a major, major change, so a situational bonus is good.

The Explosive Traps SA is awesome, but what exactly does "contact" mean? I'm guessing moving adjacent.

Swoop Bike Mechanic is cool, I really wish the Dark Hellions were more usable. (But imagine the Hell's Angels going up against Darth Maul! Scared )

No Tatooine Desert Savvy on the Tatooine Desert Hunter?

I like Force Instruction.

That Khil Sith Lord looks scary!

I like your take on Appo, very fitting!

Lando, BA looks good, love for the Bespin Guards is always welcome!

I think the Pod Car needs a higher Attack, otherwise it looks good.

That Sith Master of Assassins is sweet! Where'd you find the pic?
I like the Duro Jedi and thre Blood Carver Chieftan a lot!
The Bothan Troubleshooter is an interesting piece.
The Falleen Combat Instructor is nice.
I think Droid Reprogammer needs to have a save of some sort, probably save 6.
JOOC, why does the Kel Dor Merc have Heavy Weapon?
Komari Vosa is awesome! ThumbsUp
That N1 starfighter needs a higher Attack as well.
Arcona Jedi Master is a bit overcosted but otherwise it looks good!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:06:51 AM
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.... more food for thought .... although I see I got more ThumpUp than other critiques. Either I've gotten better, lucky, or you're just being nice.

Home early today, maybe I'll have some thoughts by today .... and I just can't seem to get around to finishing this next 25; they're "done" I just need to clean them up .....
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Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:00:51 PM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
.... more food for thought .... although I see I got more ThumpUp than other critiques. Either I've gotten better, lucky, or you're just being nice.




Well, I've been going through them in a chronological order, kinda, and you know what they say! "Practice makes perfect"
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Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:09:10 PM
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hi surf. im new to the forums but i have done some modding before but not star wars. i love your template cards, but which programs would you recommend for picture editing and script editing? i need something that is cheap (better still free!) and easy to use. im no pc expert and i have been just using limited paint with the results below-









any help or advice would be greatly received!
surf_rider56
Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:27:08 PM
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Darth Bantam wrote:
hi surf. im new to the forums but i have done some modding before but not star wars. i love your template cards, but which programs would you recommend for picture editing and script editing? i need something that is cheap (better still free!) and easy to use. im no pc expert and i have been just using limited paint with the results below-









any help or advice would be greatly received!


Welcome!

First off, if you want to use the new templates, check the thread on this page called "Custom Card Templates."
That will be a source of interesting templates. Biggsy has some interesting ideas in "Biggsy's customs & stuff" thread and on page 7 of this thread you'll find "Jedicartographer's custom set" that also has some interesting card ideas.

When making a crad, some people use Paint; I use PowerPoint to do my work. All of this depends on how good you are at using those programs and what you actually have access to.

What pics/stats you create/use is another story for a later time! Good job of centering your basic stat numbers; The headings Special Abilities and Force Powers are slightly bigger than the SA's and FP's themselves, which in turn are slightly bigger than the actual text explanations of each.

Again, Welcome.
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do you have to pay for powerpoint? im having trouble with inserting text on my cards. if you do, can you recommend another programme?
i got these templetes from 'rebelscum' website.
plus, which is the best photoshop to crop/trim/enhance pictures in your oppinion?
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