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saber1
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:46:41 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:

Why do you like luke? It's my leat favorite piece... Just because I can't figure out how you're supposed to use him


Farmboy Luke is far better than the last one with that grappling hook thingy.
Bob Chizo
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jhc36 wrote:
adamb0nd wrote:
jhc36 wrote:
yep, great set for sure. as i prefer the Yuuzhan Vong, Da'Gara is the best piece and will end up being a staple in any competitve YV squad. Saying that, I'm a sucker for fun stuff and I like farmboy Luke and Ben Kenobi. In fact, as far as these new 'small set things' cantina brawl is the best. I like Vizsla, will be a fun addition to toy around with.

And of course all positives would be no good without some hate. I'm looking at you nightsister mother.


Why do you like luke? It's my leat favorite piece... Just because I can't figure out how you're supposed to use him


Completely for the fun aspect. Run Biggs and some more rebel pilots with Leia. For as much as I love the competitve aspect...the fun/theme squads keep me playing this game.


Indeed. Fun squads are about 60% of what I play. Some fun squads can turn out to be very competitve though.
Bob Chizo
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Fi is the sniper, is he not? And, Atin is supposed to be the tech specialist, right? Am I just crazy (does happen sometimes), or are their stats backwards? Confused
adamb0nd
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:43:20 AM
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saber1 wrote:
adamb0nd wrote:

Why do you like luke? It's my leat favorite piece... Just because I can't figure out how you're supposed to use him


Farmboy Luke is far better than the last one with that grappling hook thingy.


I dunno, for 2 more points you get +2 defense, +2 attack, +10 damage on The base stats. New luke has accurate, but quite frankly, rebels are not really known for their ability to boost attacks. He isn't going to do much... and i think the other lukes movement breaker far outweights this new lukes ability to maybe make an attack at +10 for 20 when one of your uniques dies. I guess if you run him in a pilot squad the idea is you have a bunch of cheap uniques so he can make free attacks all the time?
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:03:44 AM
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komix wrote:
Whoa! I gotta say, that I love it!
Well done!
Finally Carnor Jax and Jerec! I would have liked better if Carnor had Affinity for Lumyia but meh, this one is fine for me! I like the rival ability on him (excludes Kanos and other Royal Guards).


I know cornor had affinity when I play tested him, not sure why it didnt make on the final card. But I have read both Crimson Empires and never knew he had any affiliation with her.
komix
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:43:06 AM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
komix wrote:
Whoa! I gotta say, that I love it!
Well done!
Finally Carnor Jax and Jerec! I would have liked better if Carnor had Affinity for Lumyia but meh, this one is fine for me! I like the rival ability on him (excludes Kanos and other Royal Guards).


I know cornor had affinity when I play tested him, not sure why it didnt make on the final card. But I have read both Crimson Empires and never knew he had any affiliation with her.

This was all covered in article The Emperor's Pawns from Star Wars Gamers issue 5.
U think it is that easy to learn to force grip flying balls ?LOL
dvader831
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:59:24 AM
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I just have to be sure to make this simple announcement.
My wife's name is Cheri. Go look at flavor text on the Nightsister on Rancor. I'm the most wonderful husband
markedman247
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:09:43 PM
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It's sets like this that make me miss the game.
Baegn
Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:06:22 PM
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I noticed that the RM's on small bases do not state "Small Base". The large and huge state their size. Is it a moot point with small? An oversight? Is this covered somewhere else, and I missed it?
Thanks.
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:13:12 AM
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I will ask about Onimi. That's the only potential oversight I see. (Evan Piell is a medium base)
markedman247
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:19:15 AM
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The Onimi is a small base due to Polis Massa Medic.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:19:38 AM
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Sithborg wrote:
I will ask about Onimi. That's the only potential oversight I see. (Evan Piell is a medium base)


Lol, not that I didn't believe you, but I had to go pull him out and look for myself. The Minimanager even has him (Piell that is) as a small base. I never really noticed, but of course he doesn't get out much. ;)
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:30:54 AM
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I have just wasted the past few hours reading through all the minis. I should have been studying. I am impressed with this set, especially as it is all "fanboy garbage" Wink

I think I am gonna be working a lot with Vong soon. I like where they are going.

I haven't really played much in the past few months, but this has really taken steps to pull me back into playing more regularly.
jhc36
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:09:49 AM
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the only thing i worry about...strictly competitively speaking...is vergere on a sith squad with zannah with the change back to ss mastery.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:26:11 AM
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jhc36 wrote:
the only thing i worry about...strictly competitively speaking...is vergere on a sith squad with zannah with the change back to ss mastery.


Hmm, lets see... Zannah with Crab Armor 6, getting healed for 20, and then gaining 4 force pts and pseudo-MotF 3 when Vergere dies, ON TOP of what she already has on her own. Blink

No CEs involved. That will be one tough nut to crack. Break out the unstoppable damage pieces.

Good thing that combo costs 131-138 pts for 3 characters.
jlbm347
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:28:28 AM
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Did I miss something? Where is Marka Ragnos, Dark Force Spirit? Is it the same as Exar? Just wondering.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:55:28 AM
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jlbm347 wrote:
Did I miss something? Where is Marka Ragnos, Dark Force Spirit? Is it the same as Exar? Just wondering.

Next set perhaps? ...along with Krynda Draay?

Nothing like spoilers printed right on the cards. Laugh
jhc36
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:56:10 AM
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jlbm347 wrote:
Did I miss something? Where is Marka Ragnos, Dark Force Spirit? Is it the same as Exar? Just wondering.


my gues...it's coming. Wink


I agree...it would at least cost 131 pts for that zan/verg combo... but in one hour...do you think you could get a full win? I'm guessing we'll see direct damage making a comeback...sorta like the '08 regionals when gowk was around. Funny how a yuuzhan vong ability is now better on a jeedai...somehow that seems a bit blasphemous.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:59:58 AM
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I'm guessing those Force Suppression characters will see some use as well.
Echo24
Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:42:02 AM
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swinefeld wrote:
jhc36 wrote:
the only thing i worry about...strictly competitively speaking...is vergere on a sith squad with zannah with the change back to ss mastery.


Hmm, lets see... Zannah with Crab Armor 6, getting healed for 20, and then gaining 4 force pts and pseudo-MotF 3 when Vergere dies, ON TOP of what she already has on her own. Blink

No CEs involved. That will be one tough nut to crack. Break out the unstoppable damage pieces.

Good thing that combo costs 131-138 pts for 3 characters.


Yep, you're spending 131-138 points for basically all defense and very little offense, meaning it will be very tough to get even a 2 point win. Then if you have to play against direct damage, or Crack Shot, or Vong, or Ysalimiri, or Force Suppression, or one of those squads that just gets a massive amount of shots (IG-86 swarm comes to mind) you'd be hard pressed to win at all.

I think a squad like that will become a gatekeeper in that you have to consider what you'll do if you face it, but it has so many counters that it won't be that good.

As for Marka Ragnos DFS, you didn't miss anything. Wink
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